atom feed10 messages in org.oasis-open.lists.security-servicesRE: New Name ! (A new suggestion)
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Carlisle AdamsJan 26, 2001 8:58 am 
Jeremy EpsteinJan 26, 2001 9:09 am 
Geor...@tivoli.comJan 26, 2001 9:19 am 
Orchard, DavidJan 26, 2001 9:24 am 
Orchard, DavidJan 26, 2001 9:29 am 
Alex BersonJan 26, 2001 10:15 am 
Philip Hallam-BakerJan 26, 2001 10:16 am 
Eric OldenJan 26, 2001 10:57 am 
Geor...@tivoli.comJan 26, 2001 11:27 am 
Chanliau, MarcJan 26, 2001 12:16 pm 
Subject:RE: New Name ! (A new suggestion)
From:Chanliau, Marc (MCha@netegrity.com)
Date:Jan 26, 2001 12:16:07 pm
List:org.oasis-open.lists.security-services

By the same token, "Active XML Credentials Exchange Specification" sounds awfully complicated. Here is a suggestion. Why don't we apply "deductive reasoning" and take our unanimous consent on the TC's statement of purpose as the "law": "The purpose of the XML-based Security Services TC is to define an XML framework for exchanging authentication and authorization information." I see the keywords as being "security", "authentication", "authorization", and "exchange", which, put in some kind of elementary English phraseology, would sound like "exchanging secure authentication and authorization", or X2A, and if we really care about the language we use, we can always throw in ML (X2AML). Just my two Cartesian francs... </marcc>

-----Original Message----- From: Geor@tivoli.com [mailto:Geor@tivoli.com] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:28 PM To: Eric Olden Cc: Philip Hallam-Baker; 'Carlisle Adams'; secu@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Eve L. Maler' Subject: RE: New Name ! (A new suggestion)

All,

Leaving aside political sensitivities etc..., Sentry Services sounds like a dry cleaner or a provider of bar bouncers to me.... I'm not sure it will automatically conjure up an accurate picture in peoples' minds.

--bob

Bob Blakley Chief Scientist, Security Tivoli Systems, Inc.

Eric Olden <er@securant.com> on 01/26/2001 12:53:45 PM

To: Philip Hallam-Baker <pba@verisign.com>, "'Carlisle Adams'" <carl@entrust.com>, secu@lists.oasis-open.org, "'Eve L. Maler'" <eve.@east.sun.com> cc: Subject: RE: New Name ! (A new suggestion)

Sentry Services Markup Language doesn't appear to be very descriptive of what is being attempted. It also would lead one to believe that the standard was based only on the 'original' S2ML rather than the joint effort of the many participants.

A goal should be to de-politicize the name from S2ML or AuthXML and reflect the broader contributions that are being made.

I believe that Carlisle is on the right track with "Active XML Credentials Exchange Specification", which has the intuitive and somewhat appropriate acronym "AXCES" (pronounced "access").

-----Original Message----- From: Philip Hallam-Baker [mailto:pba@verisign.com] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:15 AM To: 'Carlisle Adams'; secu@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Eve L. Maler' Subject: RE: New Name ! (A new suggestion)

I think that the most consensus we could go for at this stage is to change the word Security to something more specific.

How about :

Sentry Services Markup Language? (S2ML)

        Phill