atom feed27 messages in net.php.lists.internalsRe: [PHP-DEV] SUMMARY: Array syntax
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Johannes SchlüterJan 11, 2008 7:47 am 
Steph FoxJan 11, 2008 8:51 am 
PierreJan 11, 2008 9:37 am 
PierreJan 11, 2008 9:38 am 
Stanislav MalyshevJan 11, 2008 9:49 am 
Johannes SchlüterJan 11, 2008 10:24 am 
PierreJan 11, 2008 10:27 am 
Rasmus LerdorfJan 11, 2008 10:33 am 
Sam BarrowJan 11, 2008 10:47 am 
Olivier HillJan 11, 2008 11:06 am 
Stanislav MalyshevJan 11, 2008 11:07 am 
Sam BarrowJan 11, 2008 11:09 am 
Sam BarrowJan 11, 2008 11:13 am 
Steph FoxJan 11, 2008 11:17 am 
Antony DovgalJan 11, 2008 1:52 pm 
PierreJan 11, 2008 2:08 pm 
Sam BarrowJan 11, 2008 2:13 pm 
Antony DovgalJan 11, 2008 2:35 pm 
Jeff GriffithsJan 11, 2008 3:20 pm 
Antony DovgalJan 11, 2008 3:36 pm 
Gregory BeaverJan 11, 2008 4:09 pm 
Jeff GriffithsJan 11, 2008 4:54 pm 
PierreJan 11, 2008 5:02 pm 
Marcus BoergerJan 12, 2008 3:41 am 
Tomi KaistilaJan 12, 2008 6:17 am 
Kouber SaparevJan 14, 2008 7:27 am 
Richard LynchJan 15, 2008 2:12 pm 
Subject:Re: [PHP-DEV] SUMMARY: Array syntax
From:Marcus Boerger (
Date:Jan 12, 2008 3:41:18 am

Hello Sam,

and here goes the problem, some people here understand the issue a bit better than others and some people actually do the work because they can and are being respected for - just by their experience...

Either way there is a clear functional difference. The old array style syntax looks like a function call, or a contructor. The new one makes one thing clear, you will get an array.


Friday, January 11, 2008, 8:09:05 PM, you wrote:

On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 14:06 -0500, Olivier Hill wrote:

On Jan 11, 2008 1:47 PM, Sam Barrow <> wrote:

True. No one's vote is worth more than anyone else's, everybody should have equal say. Some people may know more about the PHP core, but we are all users and developers.

Not when some write anything about everything without knowing anything about nothing (makes sense?)

True, however with something like this, it is simply a matter of opinion, not knowledge. [] and array() will have no functional differences.

It is better to have input from people with a wide range of experience levels, it results in a fairer vote that actually represents the population, rather than putting PHP under the control of a select few.

It is not under the control of anyone. The principle is: Contribute and your voice will be louder. It's easy to have a CVS account, and it's easy to fix some bugs and submit patches. That way, you prove that your voice can count and that you at least know what you are talking about (I'm not talking about you in particular, but any user that wants to contribute and have a voting voice that counts)


One way could be that votes from internal / phpdoc counts twice as much as people that only leech this list. It's not controlling, but being sure that future decision about the language are made considering the opinions of people really knowing what's at stake. Regards, Olivier

Best regards, Marcus