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J.ZhuOct 17, 2006 2:50 am 
Grant IngersollOct 17, 2006 3:56 am 
J.ZhuOct 17, 2006 3:58 am 
Vic BancroftOct 17, 2006 5:44 am 
J.ZhuOct 17, 2006 9:03 am 
Chuck WilliamsOct 17, 2006 12:41 pm 
Vic BancroftOct 19, 2006 5:27 am 
Subject:Re: Include BM25 in Lucene?
From:Vic Bancroft (
Date:Oct 19, 2006 5:27:34 am

Chuck Williams wrote:

Vic Bancroft wrote on 10/17/2006 02:44 AM:

In some of my group's usage of lucene over large document collections, we have split the documents across several machines. This has lead to a concern of whether the inverse document frequency was appropriate, since the score seems to be dependant on the partioning of documents over indexing hosts. We have not formulated an experiment to determine if it seriously effects our results, though it has been discussed.

What version of Lucene are you using?

The current systems are based on 1.9.1, though I suspect we should clean up the deprecation warnings and move to 2.0.0.

Are you using ParallelMultiSearcher to manage the distributed indexes or have
you implemented your own mechanism?

We had started with the ParallelMultiSearcher, but did not see appropriate scalability with high numbers of concurrent requests. The bottleneck was on the reduce side, folding results back together. The first cut mechanism we implemented allows for a configurable distribution of front end processors and is extremely efficient at the cost of (over) simplification.

Perhaps it is time to investigate the hadoop path . . .

There was a bug a couple years ago, in the 1.4.3 version as I recall, where ParallelMultiSearcher was not computing df's appropriately, but that has been fixed for a long time now. The df's are the sum of the df's from each distributed index and thus are independent of the partitioning.

Interesting, we randomly spray the documents across the leaf node indexers and rely on a tendancy of large numbers of documents to smooth out the probability distributions. Hence my interest in participating in an effort to implement and evaluate the impact of using a different method, such as BM25 or perhaps even some DFR approach [1].

more, l8r, v

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