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Subject:Re: http://www.linuxandmain.com/comment/ed040702.html
From:Timothy R. Butler (tbut@uninetsolutions.com)
Date:Apr 13, 2002 7:08:59 pm
List:org.kde.kde-cafe

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Hmm... somehow I think this is different. Everyone knows the Jews are indeed Israelis/Jews. It's questionable if Mr. Canaanite is indeed a Canaanite. Additionally, it would be unreasonable to take over a whole nation to give 1 person (that's all you name) a home. Perhaps if there was a Canaanite Liberation Organization. <g>

Ok, suppose there are 5000 guys, and they can be proven irrefutably to be canaanites.

Well, then perhaps they should be provided a place to live perhaps, but still not an entire nation - 5000 guys isn't that many.

They accept it... subject to modification by the Al-Quran. After all, the old testament is not the direct word of god, while the al-quran is, so the al-quran has priority.

That is why they accept the new testament, but say Jesus was a prophet.

Oh right. *sigh* Never mind then...

I say god told me I can have Manhattan I should just stake a claim.

Okay. You can have a house there. :-) You don't need all of Manhattan for yourself, do you?

It told me to take my people with me. Just me and my closest 40000 friends.

Go ahead - betcha you won't succeed.

True. Let's try a different scenario. Lets say Israel had become the Republic of Palistine instead. Would the Jews have been welcomed to move in, in the quantity of them that are there now? If not, are you arguing they do not deserve a place to live like everyone else has?

Well, if I tried to move to Israel they would probably not let me either. Israel reserves the right to admit whoever they want. So would Palestine in your scenario, and so does any country, AFAIK.

True. However where do you propose the Jews live then if that land should be Palestine, and they wouldn't accept the Israelis? It's a highly unusual situation, but still...

I blame noone (or everyone). However, if the israeli´s lacked the foresight to realize they would be hated for accepting englan´s/un´s/whoever´s gift, they did a stupid thing. If they knew they would be hated, and did it anyway,they are hated because of what they did, and they are responsible for it.

Perhaps so, but if your group of people (the ones going after Manhattan) had been homeless (nationally, speaking) for 2,000 years, wouldn't you seize the opportunity if the UN offered Manhattan to you?

The theists of the world are responsible for a huge amount of hatred.

So are atheists. Personally I don't think one group of people is more or less responsible for hatred. The atheistic U.S.S.R. was responsible for a lot of hatred... so was the theistic U.S.A..

<sarcasm>Better yet, why not just wipe out humanity - that would be a sure way to eliminate all wars.</sarcasm> Sorry, I couldn't resist.

You know, pacifism is a very hard ideology to have. The bad jokes really make me want to kill someone ;-)

Hehehe... Pretty funny. :-)

Protestants always turn a blind eye to the evil in their history, while focusing in the evil of the other religions. Why was more evil in catholic history?

Because there were millions of catholics between 300 and 1600, which were quite wild years, and no protestants, for one thing.

Your right on that last mark. A few thoughts - (1) I don't consider Catholics a different religion, just a different denomination (this is the view held by most Christians). HOWEVER, the fact that those who founded the Protestant Church split off due to the problems of the Catholic Church seems to make us a bit less responsible for those problems. :-)

I certianly wouldn't argue that the Protestant Church is sinless[1], but neither is anyone else. "He who is without sin cast the first stone."

-Tim

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