88 messages in net.php.lists.internalsRe: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Christian Schneider | Nov 4, 2003 3:33 pm |  .patch |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Nov 4, 2003 5:07 pm | |
| Ken Tossell | Nov 4, 2003 5:10 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | Nov 5, 2003 12:49 am | |
| Michael Walter | Nov 5, 2003 12:59 am | |
| Michael Walter | Nov 5, 2003 1:03 am | |
| Kouber Saparev | Nov 5, 2003 1:48 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 2:07 am | |
| s0niX | Nov 5, 2003 2:43 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 3:21 am | |
| Mike Robinson | Nov 5, 2003 3:27 am | |
| Dirkjan Ochtman | Nov 5, 2003 3:45 am | |
| Cesare D'Amico | Nov 5, 2003 4:02 am | |
| Alexey Trunyov | Nov 5, 2003 4:34 am | |
| Antony Dovgal | Nov 5, 2003 4:59 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 5:04 am | |
| Ilia Alshanetsky | Nov 5, 2003 5:06 am | |
| Magnus Määttä | Nov 5, 2003 5:08 am | |
| Derick Rethans | Nov 5, 2003 5:18 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 7:34 am | |
| Nicolas Toper | Nov 5, 2003 7:47 am | |
| Ilia Alshanetsky | Nov 5, 2003 7:56 am | |
| Antony Dovgal | Nov 5, 2003 8:04 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Nov 5, 2003 8:21 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 8:30 am | |
| Andrey Hristov | Nov 5, 2003 8:40 am | |
| Ilia Alshanetsky | Nov 5, 2003 8:48 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | Nov 5, 2003 8:48 am | |
| Jani Taskinen | Nov 5, 2003 8:50 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 8:51 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 8:52 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 8:55 am | |
| George Schlossnagle | Nov 5, 2003 8:58 am | |
| Jani Taskinen | Nov 5, 2003 8:59 am | |
| Christian Schneider | Nov 5, 2003 9:00 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 9:01 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 9:01 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 9:05 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 9:08 am | |
| Ford, Mike [LSS] | Nov 5, 2003 9:09 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 9:18 am | |
| Romans Malinovskis | Nov 5, 2003 9:19 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | Nov 5, 2003 9:20 am | |
| Steph | Nov 5, 2003 9:25 am | |
| Andrey Hristov | Nov 5, 2003 9:25 am | |
| Ilia Alshanetsky | Nov 5, 2003 9:25 am | |
| Marco Tabini | Nov 5, 2003 9:30 am | |
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| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal: Array syntax | |
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| From: | Ilia Alshanetsky (il...@prohost.org) | |
| Date: | Nov 5, 2003 7:56:51 am | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
On November 5, 2003 10:34 am, Christian Schneider wrote:
PHP is a mix of C, Perl and other styles anyway, why deny it? It's strength is that it's a pragmatic and simple language but that doesn't mean that nothing should be changed ever.
PHP strength (IMHO) is it's simple and clear syntax, which allows people who come from background in other programming languages can quickly recognize and get used to. Creating confusing alternate syntaxes will bring us ever closer to Perl 6 where there are dozens of way to do the same thing. The end results in a confusing and hard to read/write language that all but the most dedicated of users refuse to use.
I don't want to break existing programs. And I don't care about range() (or even list() too much for that matter), I just recognize the fact the I'm using a lot of array() and it is both unnecessarily hard to write _and_ read.
That's bull, 5 characters is hard to write? If anything those 5 characters make it absolutely clear to ANYONE that the data is an array and not an object or a string or some other type. When I first saw the syntax is took me a few seconds to realize what it does and the problem would only be compounded when the code is found within an pre-existing complex script.
Ilia