atom feed63 messages in org.apache.incubator.cloudstack-marketingRe: Packt Book - Publish on our website?
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Chip ChildersMay 20, 2013 9:55 am 
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Ahmad EmneinaMay 20, 2013 8:37 pm 
Kimihiko KitaseMay 22, 2013 7:05 am 
Joe BrockmeierMay 22, 2013 12:50 pm 
Noah SlaterMay 22, 2013 12:55 pm 
Kelcey Jamison DamageMay 22, 2013 1:01 pm 
Joe BrockmeierMay 22, 2013 1:21 pm 
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Joe BrockmeierMay 22, 2013 1:30 pm 
Kelcey Jamison DamageMay 22, 2013 1:37 pm 
John KinsellaMay 22, 2013 2:38 pm 
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Noah SlaterMay 23, 2013 5:25 am 
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Noah SlaterMay 24, 2013 2:44 am 
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Chip ChildersMay 24, 2013 1:21 pm 
Kelcey Jamison DamageMay 24, 2013 1:34 pm 
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Noah SlaterMay 24, 2013 3:01 pm 
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Subject:Re: Packt Book - Publish on our website?
From:Noah Slater (nsla@apache.org)
Date:May 22, 2013 4:30:36 pm
List:org.apache.incubator.cloudstack-marketing

In general, we should be wary about making endorsements. I've not had much experience with this at the ASF, but I know that as an organisation, we seem to be quite reticent about it. I guess the reasons boil down to: if you endorse one person, project, book, etc then lots of other people are going to clamour for endorsement. Which leads us to our second problem, endorsing things implies we don't endorse other things, which could leave people feeling upset and "out of the club". If we had a wiki page with a list of third-party CloudStack resources/books/etc, then people can add to it as they see fit. I think it should be obvious that this is a community maintained resource, and not an official project edict. (Caveat: we will have to monitor this page for spam and too much blatant self-promotion or advertising.)

On 22 May 2013 22:44, Kelcey Jamison Damage <kel@bbits.ca> wrote:

I simply meant as an OSS community I do not want us to be perceived as cherry picking 3rd party content we display, with out a public criteria. That way there is no negative blowback.

IE: we publish our selection criteria.

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kinsella" <jl@stratosec.co> To: "<mark@cloudstack.apache.org>" <mark@cloudstack.apache.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:38:56 PM Subject: Re: Packt Book - Publish on our website?

Endorsements are something somebody does on their blog. I don't think presence on the ACS page has anything to do with that (and should be noted clearly - same as for classes, whatever).

Another reason this could be good - being able to list one or more books on the site shows a level of maturity that both folks are starting to write thicker documents about ACS, and also that publishers feel there's a market for such a product.

John

On May 22, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Kelcey Jamison Damage <kel@bbits.ca <mailto:kel@bbits.ca>> wrote:

I agree with Noah,

We have to take the good with the bad otherwise we are inadvertently endorsing specific works as an organization.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Noah Slater" <nsla@apache.org<mailto:nsla@apache.org>> To: mark@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:mark@cloudstack.apache.org

Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:55:31 PM Subject: Re: Packt Book - Publish on our website?

The minute we do that though, we start to endorse third-party works, and that is a can of worms.

On 22 May 2013 20:50, Joe Brockmeier <jz@zonker.net<mailto:jz@zonker.net>> wrote:

On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 10:37 PM, Ahmad Emneina wrote: This strikes me as being along the same lines as having a nascar-esqe badging page. IMO the more books, the merrier. No specific endorsements.

The flip side of this is that many tech books these days are truly awful. I'd rather point to books we actually recommend and feel are accurate than just drive traffic to any CloudStack title.

(I spent quite a lot of time reviewing tech books years ago, and there's a very, very wide variance in quality out there.)

Best,

jzb