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Benjamin EshamJun 24, 2007 7:26 pm 
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Benjamin EshamJun 25, 2007 9:42 am 
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Charlotte WebbJun 25, 2007 11:30 am 
Benjamin EshamJun 25, 2007 11:38 am 
Subject:[WikiEN-l] Separate articles for U.S. villages and towns
From:Benjamin Esham (
Date:Jun 24, 2007 7:26:22 pm

(I'm sorry if this topic has already been beaten to death on this list; WikiEN-l was entirely overwhelming to me until I recently started using Gmane, so I haven't been keeping up.)

Hello all,

I'm writing to try to gauge the community's feeling on an issue that has been nagging me for a while. I am a resident of [[Geneseo (town), New York]] and [[Geneseo (village), New York]], and cannot come up with a good reason for why these should be separate articles. I realize that the village and town are, in a legal sense, different entities; the division between the two in the census data is why Rambot created two articles.

In any context other than a strictly legal one, however, both the town and village are simply "Geneseo", and I believe that Wikipedia should reflect that fact with a single unified page. That article would of course include the census (Rambot) data from both legal entities, and a section explaining the difference between the two, but I believe that the current situation?with two articles?leads to duplication and redundancy of data, or its opposite, unsynchronized or inconsistent data.

I realize that any changes to the relevant policy would extend beyond this one pair of articles?the Livingston County infobox at the bottom of the Geneseo article indicates seven other town/village pairs, and it seems probable that there are hundreds of analogous situations in New York alone. However, I thought I would try to judge the community opinion on this particular matter: should Wikipedia describe reality de facto when that is more accurate and useful than describing it de jure?

Thanks for any feedback,