|Tom Rutt||Feb 22, 2005 3:13 pm|
|Subject:||Prelim Agenda of 2/22 teleconf|
|From:||Tom Rutt (to...@coastin.com)|
|Date:||Feb 22, 2005 3:13:42 pm|
The prelim agenda is attached.
Please post any corrections to the entire list before the end of the week.
tom rutt wsrm TC chair
Title: Draft Agenda to WSRM TC Conference Call May 06, 2003
Preliminary Minutes of WSRM TC Conference Call Feb 22, 2005
The meeting of the WSRM TC took place by teleconference
Tuesday, Feb 22 , 2005, from 5:30 to 7:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
1 Draft Agenda:
1 Draft Agenda to WSRM TC Conference Call
2 Roll Call
3 Minutes Discussion
3.1 Appointment of Minute Taker
3.2 Approval of previous meeting minutes
4 Action Item Status Review
5 Status of WS-Reliability Specification
6 Status of Interop SC activities
7 Next Step Documentation
7.1 Editorial Clarifications and Errata
7.2 Implementation Guidelines
7.2 Future Enhancement Requests
8 Composability with other WS-Specs
9 ws reliability PAS progression
10 Discussion of Future Meetings
Jacques stated there are things to discuss regarding the next version but it is time to discuss taking into account ws-addressing when it becomes stable.
Bob: we need to wait until the output of the WS-addressing face to face.
Anish: it is too early to talk about ws addressing because it has not reached last call.
Jacques: my ambition is that we have a well defined functionality to figure out how to work with ws-addressing.
Anish: when it goes to LC, other working groups are asked for feedback on the spec.
Marc Peel: Piggyback reply to for application and other cases we will not do so.
If anyone has discussion items in this area bring to the list to discuss.
2 Roll Call
First Name Last Name Role Company Jacques Durand Secretary Fujitsu Kazunori Iwasa Secretary Fujitsu Tom Rutt TC Chair Fujitsu Robert Freund Member Hitachi Nobuyuki Yamamoto Member Hitachi Mark Peel Secretary Novell Anish Karmarkar Member Oracle jeff mischkinsky Member Oracle Pete Wenzel Member SeeBeyond Chi-Yuen Ng Member Univ of Hong Kong Hans Granqvist Prosp Member Verisign
Meeting is quorate.
4 Minutes Discussion
Tom Rutt will take minutes.
4.1 Approval of previous meeting minutes
The minutes of the 02/08 meeting (amended attendance list from prelim minutes) are posted at:
Jacques Moved to approve the 2/8 minutes, Bob F seconded.
No opposition minutes 2/8 minutes are approved
5 Status of Action Items
5.1 Action 090704-1 (Tom) Pending
Action: Tom will try to find, from previous minutes, a list of features we have put off for future versions and will post it to the list for discussion.
5.1 Action 121404-2 (Anish) Pending
Action: Oracle will provide examples of soap header dumps with both ws-reliability and ws-addressing headers in use, as in the interop demo.
Anish does not have the dumps yet. They have used the two together in a simple use case.
Leave it open.
5.2 Action 012505-1 (Tom Rutt) Pending
Action: Tom will investigate how to change the status of printed document. The posted standard still states CD.
Jeff : this is important. Why does it not happen automatically.
Action: tom will prepare a coversheet for the standard, and post it for people to look at for feedback.
5.3 Action 020805-1 (Tom Rutt) Closed
Action: Tom will reserve space for wsrm TC F2f two days at OASIS symposium the last week of April.
Tom Reserved all of wed and Thursday April 27 and 28 in New Orleans.
Tom Asked for dialin, they require an 800 number.
5.4 Action 020805-2 (Tom Rutt) open
Action: Tom will investigate how to post the three OASIS pas documents on our server.
Jamie Clark is investigating how to get the documents on the OASIS Site.
6 Status of WS-Reliability Specification
The public and member web site pages for the TC to have a single announcement, which refers by URL to spec and schema at the proper location on the OASIS web site.
The spec itself still shows status a CD.
The chair sent an email to OASIS staff about the change, but received no response.
Continuing Action: Tom will investigate how to change the status of printed document.
7 Status of Interop SC activities
Nothing has happened and there are no current plans.
Tom stated he can take this off the agenda until there is some work to do.
Bob: we should determine in the future if there is future work for the Interop.
Bob: we could put an item on the agenda for the next call what we are going to do with the group.
Tom will put this on the agenda for next week.
8 Next Step Documentation
Tom Rutt posted the edited contribution from the Interop SC as:
Comments have been requested on re-factoring this contribution into the three document types shown below.
8.1 Editorial Clarifications and Errata
Clarifications, editorial nits, interpretations of the actual specification,
which should be posted for others to see
8.2 Implementation Guidelines / Application Notes
Things to help implementers, which, would typically be specific to application environments.
8.3 Future Enhancement Requests
Proposed changes for future versions which would ease implementation or enhance protocol capabilities.
9 Composability with other WS-Specs
Task force was initiated with members Jacques, Alan, Abbie,. and Bob F.
Jacques have some feedback. They have a new draft composability document which they are reviewing internally.
Bob: I think it is time to circulate the document.
Action: Jacques will post a new composabiliity document for review by the end of this week.
10 WS-reliability PAS progression
Tom sent a mail to investigate how to post the three OASIS pas documents on our server.
The attached response from Jamie, is posted as:
[Fwd: Re: Can OASIS post the JTC1 Pas Papers] Tom Rutt 14 Feb 2005 12:17:58
* From: James Bryce Clark <jami...@oasis-open.org>
* To: to...@coastin.com
* Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:43:31 -0800
Acknowledged. I will inquire.
Please note that submission to an outside group like ISO is possible
but requires some OASIS management approval. (See the liasion policy at
TC wants to recommend this to us, it might be a good first step to have the
TC adopt a motion or such to that effect. The criteria -- on the OASIS
side, which on a timeline would precede any ISO criteria -- are listed in
that policy as well.
I am aware of the acute interest that some members have in ending some
OASIS work to JTC1's panels which are populated in part by those
members. There are other parts of ISO as well, so one of the open
questions is "why JTC1"? . It may well be a good idea to send items to
JTC1 -- but it's not a sure thing yet, and I am hesitant to encourage
people to get ahead of the process. Which starts by somebody proposing it
to us. Which hasn't happened yet so far as I know.
Should I send essentially this message to the TC as well, or is all
that already obvious to them?
Tom Rutt at 10:07 AM 2/9/2005:
The WSRM TC is discussing the possible progression of ws-reliability thru
the OASIS pas process.
I, since I am a member of the US national body, downloaded three JTC1
their password protection:
Jtc1 N7458 -OASIS pas application
N7617 - Summary of Ballot responses granting OASIS Pas submitter
N7633 OASIS answers to NB comments.
I would like to have these documents available to the wsrm tc members.
Can you see if JTC1 secretariat will let OASIS put these papers on our
site, or give us a public url reference for them?
wsrm TC chair
Jeff M: there is no plan from OASIS staff on this yet.
Bob M: I move that we ask the OASIS staff to pursue the PAS progression of WS-reliability. Jeff M seconded.
Discussion: the JTC1 study group is meeting in March. JTC1 may have delegated recommendations to the study group.
Jeff: members should see about getting on that JTC1 Study group. Don Deutch is the chair of the group.
No opposition, motion passed.
Action: tom will inform Jamie of this motion to get the ball rolling.
11 Discussion of Future Meetings
Tom reserved all day Wed and Thursday after the symposium for Our TC.
We will need to bring our own projector, the hotel will supply a screen.
There will be a 30 dollar a day fee for attendees (there will be a meeting registration form).
Jacques: change to Thursday all day, with Friday morning.
Tom: asked if anyone would complain.
Tom will ask the staff to change to all day Thursday and Friday morning.
12 New Business
Bob F moved to adjourn. Jacques seconded.
No opposition, meeting adjourned.
Visible links 1. http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/11490/MinutesWSRMTC020805.htm 2. http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrm/2004/06/WS-Reliability-CD1.086.pdf 3. http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrm/2004/06/fnp-1.1.xsd 4. http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrm/2004/06/reference-1.1.xsd 5. http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrm/2004/06/ws-reliability-1.1.xsd 6. http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrm/2004/06/wsrmfp-1.1.xsd 7. http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/11196/InteropSCfeedback.pdf 8. http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/email/archives/200502/msg00012.html