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| Hays, Sam | Apr 9, 2001 6:32 am | |
| James Raftery | Apr 9, 2001 6:45 am | |
| Steve Tremblett | Apr 9, 2001 6:57 am | |
| Rasputin | Apr 9, 2001 7:47 am | |
| Matthew Emmerton | Apr 9, 2001 8:06 am | |
| Christopher Schulte | Apr 9, 2001 8:26 am | |
| Rasputin | Apr 9, 2001 8:28 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 8:45 am | |
| Christopher Schulte | Apr 9, 2001 9:23 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 9, 2001 10:25 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 10:29 am | |
| Markus Holmberg | Apr 9, 2001 10:35 am | |
| Michael R. Rudel | Apr 9, 2001 10:37 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 10:38 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 10:49 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 9, 2001 10:52 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 10:56 am | |
| David A. Koran | Apr 9, 2001 11:15 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 9, 2001 11:15 am | |
| Przemyslaw Brojewski | Apr 9, 2001 11:15 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 11:31 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 9, 2001 11:36 am | |
| Przemyslaw Brojewski | Apr 9, 2001 11:58 am | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Apr 9, 2001 12:10 pm | |
| Ken Bolingbroke | Apr 9, 2001 12:13 pm | |
| Kal Torak | Apr 9, 2001 12:34 pm | |
| Matthew Emmerton | Apr 9, 2001 12:54 pm | |
| Jeffrey J. Mountin | Apr 9, 2001 12:54 pm | |
| Scott Dodson | Apr 9, 2001 1:15 pm | |
| Jeff Love | Apr 9, 2001 1:28 pm | |
| David Kelly | Apr 9, 2001 1:42 pm | |
| Peter Radcliffe | Apr 9, 2001 1:43 pm | |
| Ben Loyall | Apr 9, 2001 2:07 pm | |
| James Penick | Apr 9, 2001 2:08 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 9, 2001 2:20 pm | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 9, 2001 3:54 pm | |
| Bob K | Apr 9, 2001 4:22 pm | |
| Conrad Sabatier | Apr 9, 2001 5:49 pm | |
| Christopher K Davis | Apr 9, 2001 5:54 pm | |
| Matthew Emmerton | Apr 9, 2001 7:03 pm | |
| Donn Miller | Apr 9, 2001 7:12 pm | |
| Jeffrey J. Mountin | Apr 9, 2001 10:53 pm | .Other |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 10, 2001 4:06 am | |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 10, 2001 4:12 am | |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 10, 2001 4:19 am | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 10, 2001 5:51 am | |
| Steve Tremblett | Apr 10, 2001 6:36 am | |
| Graywane | Apr 10, 2001 6:53 am | |
| Michael Nottebrock | Apr 10, 2001 8:32 am | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Apr 10, 2001 8:34 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 10, 2001 8:41 am | |
| Gerhard Sittig | Apr 10, 2001 9:51 am | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 10, 2001 12:33 pm | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Apr 10, 2001 1:52 pm | |
| Joe Abley | Apr 10, 2001 2:28 pm | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 10, 2001 2:46 pm | |
| David O'Brien | Apr 10, 2001 2:47 pm | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 10, 2001 2:54 pm | |
| David O'Brien | Apr 10, 2001 2:54 pm | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 10, 2001 2:55 pm | |
| David O'Brien | Apr 10, 2001 2:56 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 10, 2001 3:28 pm | |
| Matthew Emmerton | Apr 10, 2001 5:28 pm | |
| Dima Dorfman | Apr 10, 2001 9:30 pm | |
| Peter Jeremy | Apr 10, 2001 10:30 pm | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Apr 10, 2001 10:48 pm | |
| Steve O'Hara-Smith | Apr 10, 2001 11:00 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Apr 11, 2001 6:45 am | |
| David O'Brien | Apr 11, 2001 10:14 am | |
| jonathan michaels | Apr 11, 2001 12:26 pm | |
| Oliver Fromme | Apr 11, 2001 12:48 pm | |
| Pete French | Apr 11, 2001 12:58 pm | |
| Michael Butler | Apr 11, 2001 1:13 pm | |
| jonathan michaels | Apr 11, 2001 1:20 pm | |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 11, 2001 2:51 pm | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 11, 2001 3:19 pm | |
| Nik Clayton | Apr 12, 2001 12:57 am |
| Subject: | Re: Releases | |
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| From: | Matthew Emmerton (ma...@gsicomp.on.ca) | |
| Date: | Apr 10, 2001 5:28:15 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-stable | |
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 03:54:32PM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
pre-alphas and totally trashed most systems and rightly freak out most novice admins), while STABLE/RC/RELEASE just makes sense. However, this
You obviously haven't been reading all the threads on this same topic over the past month. We need the "BETA" stage for ports. Plain and simple. Some seem to prefer -PRERELEASE. I don't care what it is called -- 4.3-I_AM_A_MORNON_BECAUSE_I_DO_NOT_RTFM would be fine too. Read the archives to see why it is needed for ports right before a release.
Do you read every thread on every topic?
While reading through some of the other messages in this thread I figured out what the -BETA stage is used for, and in many cases, the name is appropriate, although it's confusing to people unfamiliar with the release process.
As was previously mentioned, documenting this "black magic" release process is a tough thing to do. However, I'd be willing to solicit explanations of the release process from people who are familiar with it so that it can be documented, with appropriate references made to it where -STABLE is mentioned in the handbook.
This is a first step into providing better documentation which we can arm ourselves with to point people at, in order to avoid discussions like this one from recurring.
-- Matt Emmerton
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