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48 messages in org.w3.www-styleRe: Publishing the flexible box model| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| L. David Baron | Jun 3, 2008 9:48 pm | |
| Alan Gresley | Jun 3, 2008 11:56 pm | |
| L. David Baron | Jun 4, 2008 12:22 am | |
| Anne van Kesteren | Jun 4, 2008 1:12 am | |
| David Hyatt | Jun 4, 2008 1:46 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 4, 2008 5:50 pm | |
| L. David Baron | Jun 4, 2008 6:04 pm | |
| David Hyatt | Jun 4, 2008 6:54 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 4, 2008 8:09 pm | .h |
| L. David Baron | Jun 4, 2008 10:23 pm | |
| L. David Baron | Jun 4, 2008 10:48 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 4, 2008 11:39 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 5, 2008 12:32 am | |
| Alan Gresley | Jun 5, 2008 12:34 am | |
| Robert O'Callahan | Jun 6, 2008 3:44 am | |
| fantasai | Jun 6, 2008 8:12 am | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 6, 2008 9:06 am | |
| Anne van Kesteren | Jun 6, 2008 9:40 am | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 6, 2008 9:54 am | |
| fantasai | Jun 6, 2008 12:41 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 6, 2008 1:00 pm | |
| Robert O'Callahan | Jun 6, 2008 1:43 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 6, 2008 3:48 pm | |
| Robert O'Callahan | Jun 7, 2008 2:30 am | |
| Alan Gresley | Jun 7, 2008 7:24 am | |
| Alan Gresley | Jun 7, 2008 7:48 am | |
| Brad Kemper | Jun 7, 2008 10:03 am | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 7, 2008 1:34 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 7, 2008 2:46 pm | |
| Alan Gresley | Jun 7, 2008 8:56 pm | |
| Robert O'Callahan | Jun 9, 2008 5:48 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 9, 2008 7:22 pm | |
| Robert O'Callahan | Jun 9, 2008 7:59 pm | |
| L. David Baron | Jun 9, 2008 8:29 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 9, 2008 9:24 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 9, 2008 9:55 pm | |
| Robert O'Callahan | Jun 9, 2008 10:04 pm | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 10, 2008 12:02 am | |
| Robert O'Callahan | Jun 10, 2008 1:46 am | |
| Alan Gresley | Jun 10, 2008 2:19 am | |
| Alan Gresley | Jun 10, 2008 2:35 am | |
| Alan Gresley | Jun 10, 2008 2:50 am | |
| Andrew Fedoniouk | Jun 10, 2008 12:58 pm | |
| Robert O'Callahan | Jun 10, 2008 2:34 pm | |
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| Subject: | Re: Publishing the flexible box model | Actions... |
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| From: | Andrew Fedoniouk (ne...@terrainformatica.com) | |
| Date: | Jun 9, 2008 9:24:19 pm | |
| List: | org.w3.www-style | |
Robert O'Callahan wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Andrew Fedoniouk <ne...@terrainformatica.com <mailto:ne...@terrainformatica.com>> wrote:
Robert O'Callahan wrote:
In this terms flex lengths and dimensions of position:absolute and position:fixed elements can be computed against their layout containers too.
Thus: div { position:absolute; width:25%; height:25%; left:1*; top:1*; right:1*; bottom:1*; }
will position such an element in the middle of abs. pos. container.
OK but how is this going to interact with the rules here, for example: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visudet.html#abs-non-replaced-width
I see no problems there either. In most cases 'shrink-to-fit' is 1* exactly. Practically in all cases 'auto' value can be replaced by 1* value. 1* is a mathematically correct way of saying 'auto' :)
That doesn't answer my question. You need to extend the rules in that section to describe what happens when flexunits (not just "1*") appear for margins, padding or content.
For flow:vertical; box-sizing:content-box; ( default value )
vertical margins, paddings, content and borders in flex units share the same free space. So for style:
div.inner { padding:1* 0; }
This markup <div style="height:YYpx; flow:vertical"> <div class=inner>First</div> <div class=inner>Second</div> </div>
will be rendered as
|------------ | |First | | |Second | |------------
Rule is simple: free space is distributed among all lengths in the direction in the block that establishes box with free space.
position:relative elements do not have concept of layout container for computation of left,top,right and bottom so flex values for these attributes are treated as undefined.
What does 'undefined' mean? 'auto'?
Here (for position:relative) it means 'auto' or just '0' (for left,top,right and bottom)
OK. This is all stuff that needs to be added to your spec.
Consider this:
<div style="overflow:hidden; width:xx; height:yy"> <img align=left id=first /> <p flex=1>...</p> <img align=left id=second /> </div>
You will have *exactly* the same kind of problems.
No. The flex on the <p> is ignored because the container is not a flexbox. If the container was a flexbox, then the <img> elements would not float.
Exactly the same thing as with flex units. Just replace 'flexbox' by 'flow'.
About flex paddings, consider task of vertical alignment of content of some div. With flex units that is simple and naturally as:
div { box-sizing: border-box; height:1*; border:1px solid; padding:1* 10px; }
I agree that flexunits are very powerful.
You do have to account for how flexboxes behave in non-flexbox containers, and how non-flexboxes behave in flexbox containers, but this is considerably easier than reevaluating everything that already exists.
I do not see any problems here too.
I was talking about flexboxes, not flexunits. The flexbox spec needs to define, for example, what happens when you have a horizontal flexbox containing a number of block children with flex --- how the horizontal space allocated to each child is computed. (Your flexunits spec needs to define that too.)
Rob
-- Andrew Fedoniouk.








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