23 messages in net.sourceforge.lists.plone-developersRe: [Plone-developers] QuickInstaller...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Martin Aspeli | Feb 26, 2009 6:19 pm | |
| Hanno Schlichting | Feb 27, 2009 2:54 am | |
| Martin Aspeli | Feb 27, 2009 2:59 am | |
| Hanno Schlichting | Feb 27, 2009 3:25 am | |
| Martin Aspeli | Feb 27, 2009 3:47 am | |
| Matthew Wilkes | Feb 27, 2009 3:53 am | |
| Ricardo Alves | Feb 27, 2009 4:18 am | |
| Wichert Akkerman | Feb 27, 2009 4:59 am | |
| Hanno Schlichting | Feb 27, 2009 5:09 am | |
| Martin Aspeli | Feb 27, 2009 5:29 am | |
| Daniel Nouri | Feb 27, 2009 5:35 am | |
| Chris Rossi | Feb 27, 2009 6:34 am | |
| Ricardo Alves | Feb 27, 2009 6:39 am | |
| Wichert Akkerman | Feb 27, 2009 7:48 am | |
| Rob Miller | Feb 27, 2009 11:25 am | |
| Maurits van Rees | Feb 28, 2009 2:19 pm | |
| Hanno Schlichting | Mar 14, 2009 8:22 am | |
| Lennart Regebro | Mar 14, 2009 8:42 am | |
| Hanno Schlichting | Mar 14, 2009 9:06 am | |
| Gilles Lenfant | Mar 14, 2009 11:33 am | |
| Martin Aspeli | Mar 14, 2009 11:33 pm | |
| Wichert Akkerman | Mar 14, 2009 11:51 pm | |
| Alexander Limi | Mar 16, 2009 4:47 am |
| Subject: | Re: [Plone-developers] QuickInstaller kills local utilities upon product re-install | |
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| From: | Rob Miller (ra...@burningman.com) | |
| Date: | Feb 27, 2009 11:25:01 am | |
| List: | net.sourceforge.lists.plone-developers | |
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Chris Rossi wrote:
It occurs to me that what Martin really wants to do when he "reinstalls" is "upgrade". Currently in quick installer parlance these two concepts are (con)fused. Would the most sense be to think about the upgrade story for products, separately from the reinstall story? I could see requiring quick installable products to register upgrade routines with the quick installer
We already have infrastructure for that: genericsetup upgrade profiles.
i hoep you mean the upgrade infrastructure provided via the <genericsetup:upgradeSteps> ZCML tag (and related tags). i know that Plone invented the idea of actually registering separate import profiles to used for upgrade processes, but this has always seemed to me a brutal hack that was only necessary b/c the upgradeStep stuff hadn't yet been finished.
for the record, i agree w/ martin on this one... yes, reinstall is dangerous, yes, quickinstaller is brain-dead. but Plone has a lot of "gotchas", and not everyone knows all the details about best practices w.r.t. product installation and upgrades as those of us who have been around a while. IMO the current situation makes it too easy to shoot yourself in the foot.
-r
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