32 messages in org.perl.cpan-testers-discussRe: The relation between CPAN Testers...
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Subject:Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it)Actions...
From:David E. Wheeler (dav@kineticode.com)
Date:Sep 5, 2008 9:17:02 am
List:org.perl.cpan-testers-discuss

On Sep 5, 2008, at 09:13, Andy Lester wrote:

"Here are test reports reporting on failures for these things that we care about you caring about."

Again, this is CPANTS, not CPAN Testers.

Getting failure reports for a module not running on Perl 5.005 is a test about something I don't care about. I don't give Shit One if my code runs on 5.005, and yet, I've had failures for them.

Well, yeah, I have too. And sometimes I make a tweak to get things working on 5.005, and other times I tell my users that it runs 5.006 or later by saying so in Build.PL. Seems reasonable to me to specify such dependencies.

These are not in test reports. They were in this thread. And they're suggestions to you. Do what you want with them.

And yet they're encapsulations of this entire problem. It's unsolicited advice. "You should make your code handle 5.005. You should have checks for such-and-such a platform." Who is anyone to say?

No one says that. They say, "Hey, this fails on 5.05." No one is suggesting what you should do about it. That's your choice. Of course, those of us interested in quality hope you'll tell your users about a Perl version dependency, but no one is demanding anything.

There is far too much bile floating in this thread considering that I believe we all have a shared interest in the quality of our code.

That "quality" slider is long and multidirectional.

That doesn't make it any less real.

Best,

David