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Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 16, 2011 10:05 am 
João PaisSep 18, 2011 11:08 am 
Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 18, 2011 12:31 pm 
Miller PucketteSep 19, 2011 10:25 am 
Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 19, 2011 10:32 am 
András MurányiSep 19, 2011 5:02 pm.tcl
Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 19, 2011 8:56 pm 
IOhannes m zmoelnigSep 20, 2011 12:30 am 
Andy FarnellSep 20, 2011 5:02 am 
Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 20, 2011 8:46 am 
Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 20, 2011 8:58 am 
Miller PucketteSep 20, 2011 11:15 am 
Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 20, 2011 11:37 am 
Miller PucketteSep 20, 2011 11:58 am 
Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 20, 2011 12:02 pm 
Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 20, 2011 12:33 pm 
Jonathan WilkesSep 20, 2011 1:19 pm 
Hans-Christoph SteinerSep 20, 2011 1:44 pm 
Subject:Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI
From:Andy Farnell (pada@obiwannabe.co.uk)
Date:Sep 20, 2011 5:02:01 am
List:at.iem.pd-dev

Whenever I see the words "this would _make_ people"... alarm bells start ringing for me.

Yes, the proposed behaviour is perfectly correct, logical, and consistent. And utterly the wrong thing to do IMHO.

It would frighten off newcomers and disorientate students.

It's why we create the cushion of fairy stories for kids, to soften the harsh realities of the _actual_ world. Later on you learn that there isn't a magic library fairy that loads everything, but it helps you cope with the first steps.

If anybody made PD that broken out of the box it would require lots of work to fix in order to make it fit to teach with again.

On 2011-09-19 19:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Hey Miller,

I actually think this would make switching between vanilla and extended easier because it would make people use [import] or [declare] to load libs, then when using vanilla, you'll know which libraries the patch needs. Can you think of examples where it would make things more difficult?