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87 messages in net.nether.puck.cisco-nsp[c-nsp] Growing BGP tables| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Vincent De Keyzer | Nov 19, 2004 6:46 am | |
| Gert Doering | Nov 19, 2004 9:01 am | |
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| lee....@census.gov | Dec 1, 2004 8:59 am | |
| Rodney Dunn | Dec 1, 2004 9:18 am | |
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| Subject: | [c-nsp] Growing BGP tables | Actions... |
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| From: | lee....@census.gov (lee....@census.gov) | |
| Date: | Dec 1, 2004 11:18:41 am | |
| List: | net.nether.puck.cisco-nsp | |
I missed the part about this being configured only on a nontransit AS. If it's only for a stub AS then it seems like the worst case would be the stub AS losing whatever service guarantees they have with their ISPs ... or are there ISPs that offer service guarantees for traffic that leaves their network?
Lee
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No. I was talking about this only being configured on the RouterA/Routerb pair Where that represents it's own nontransit AS.
That's why I asked what deployment scenarios are most of you asking about for this.
I see this more as a benefit for a stub AS rather than any AS that is transit.
AS1 AS2
ISPA ISPB | | RouterA --- IBGP --- RouterB
|---------- AS3 --------|
I put in the proposal the next hop check but are you asking that is a less specific prefix exist in the RIB then just dont' install a more specific regardless of how/where that less specific was learned?
Rodney
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:59:13AM -0500, lee....@census.gov wrote:
On 11/30/2004 10:30 PM, Rodney Dunn <rod...@cisco.com> wrote:
I'm trying to put it together in my head how it would be done for dual EBGP sessions.
ie:
ISPA ISPB | | RouterA --- IBGP --- RouterB
Say I get a /16 and a /24 for a prefix from ISPA with the same next hop so I wouldn't want to install the /24. But what happens if I get a /16 from ISPB and that gets sent to RouterA. That prefix would have a next hop of Router B or ISPB so it would be a different prefix and installed in the RIB. Now the traffic that was originally flowing to the /24 would take the backup path (due to a longest match lookup) rather than the path it would have taken if we had installed the original /24. Would that be acceptable?
I think not.
Say RouterA advertises a /16 and a /24 within the /16 to ISPA, RouterB advertises the same /16 and a different /24 within the /16 to ISPB.
If I'm understanding the proposal correctly, ISPA drops the /24 since it has the same next hop as the /16. ISPB also drops their /24 since it has the same next hop as the /16. If the link between RouterA and RouterB goes down then ISPA, and all their customers, aren't going to be able to get to siteB (the /24 advertised by RouterB) while ISPB, and all their customers, aren't going to be able to get to siteA (the /24 advertised by RouterA).
Lee







