|Paul W. Frields||Jul 30, 2009 10:51 am|
|Ricky Zhou||Jul 30, 2009 2:42 pm|
|Paul W. Frields||Jul 31, 2009 8:21 am|
|Adam Miller||Jul 31, 2009 8:42 am|
|Paul W. Frields||Jul 31, 2009 8:49 am|
|Adam Miller||Jul 31, 2009 8:55 am|
|Paul W. Frields||Jul 31, 2009 9:30 am|
|Toshio Kuratomi||Jul 31, 2009 10:16 am|
|Josh Boyer||Jul 31, 2009 11:09 am|
|Paul W. Frields||Jul 31, 2009 11:53 am|
|Toshio Kuratomi||Jul 31, 2009 12:17 pm|
|Toshio Kuratomi||Jul 31, 2009 12:37 pm|
|Josh Boyer||Jul 31, 2009 12:50 pm|
|Toshio Kuratomi||Jul 31, 2009 1:27 pm|
|Josh Boyer||Jul 31, 2009 1:38 pm|
|Paul W. Frields||Jul 31, 2009 2:41 pm|
|Josh Boyer||Jul 31, 2009 5:07 pm|
|Rex Dieter||Aug 3, 2009 7:51 am|
|Rahul Sundaram||Aug 4, 2009 3:02 am|
|Subject:||Re: Redesign of downloads|
|From:||Josh Boyer (jwbo...@gmail.com)|
|Date:||Jul 31, 2009 12:50:11 pm|
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:17:35PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
Do you think the current Desktop spin is not the one that we want to present to entice the most contributors? I'm a bit confused as to what exactly you are trying to propose here.
The current focus is about bits and product, not about people and tasks.
This is what the current page looks like:
[ Get Fedora 11 Desktop Edition Now [ KDE Fans go here! ] This is the latest version of the [ Have a PowerPC? Go here! ] Fedora Linux operating system [ Show me all download featuring the GNOME desktop. It's options on one page] everything you need to try out Fedora—and if you like it, install it right from the desktop! ]
What does Fedora 11 Desktop Edition let me do? I need to run a server, where do I go? I'm a C++ developer, what do I want to use?
"What does it let me do?" is sort of a silly question. All the spins allow you to do the exact same stuff, just with a different look to _start_ with.
If you know what a server or C++ is, you are probably knowledgeable enough to click the "more info" link (aka spins page).
I'd like to see something more people focused. Why do/should people choose one of the spins over another one? What sets them apart? I
The "what is" and "what sets apart" is one of the explicit goals for the spins page. Not the default download page.
Here's an example of what I mean (remember this is a strawman, I'm not involved with all of these teams so I don't know what they see as what their special niche is):
With Fedora 11 you can browse the web, talk with friends, write novels, run a business, design websites, or write great software.
[ Download the Fedora Desktop Edition for a general purpose desktop. ]
[ Want to develop software? [ Want to convert a PowerPC Try out KDE ] Mac into something useful? Run Fedora PPC ]
[ Show me all preconfigured download options ]
You're missing the targeting part here. We aren't looking to redesign the default download page and keep the exact same content. We want it simple, targeted at new users, and with a clear an easy link for differentiation present (to the spins page).
People say over and over that it's impossible to condense all the differences between Gnome and KDE into a single line but that's not really the point. The actual differences in the upstream projects are less important here than the one thing that each of our spin creators wants to advertise as the thing they do well. Our Desktop spin and our KDE spin both want to be general purpose desktops but if they were truly the same thing, we'd only ship one of them.
And they can differentiate that on the spins page.
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