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John BorrasJan 10, 2011 12:59 am 
Greenaway NigelJan 10, 2011 3:05 am 
Colin WallisJan 10, 2011 4:29 pm 
Chris ParkerJan 11, 2011 1:25 am 
John BorrasJan 11, 2011 1:41 am 
Greenaway NigelJan 11, 2011 5:05 am 
Colin WallisJan 11, 2011 4:07 pm 
John BorrasJan 20, 2011 4:52 am 
Subject:[tgf] RE: TGF Business Model
From:Chris Parker (chri@cstransform.com)
Date:Jan 11, 2011 1:25:47 am
List:org.oasis-open.lists.tgf

Nigel, Colin

Have now had a chance to review Nigel's comments/questions, and Colin's
additions.

Rather than coment inline on the individual points in the Wiki, I thought it
would be sensible to give an overall reaction by email.

My first point is that I found all the points on the wiki very reassuring! It
was always a worry that you might spot gaping holes in our model, but your
headline finding is that it is basically fit-for-purpose - although with some
areas which need addressing in more detail or giving more emphasis. I agree
with all of your points, and am confident they are already contained within in
our framework. Basically, I see all of the issues you raise as falling into one
of three categories:

* the issue is already contained in our business model, but you think it warrants
greater emphasis (for example, use of intermediaries) * the issue is covered in our wider framework, but just not under the section on
"business model" (for example, the "citizens have multiple roles" problem is
addressed in the section on Identity Management, and data access is addressed in
section on Citizen Empowerment) * the issue is already covered but in the more detailed, so far unpublished layers
of our model (for example, your point about the need for more detail on
governance, or how the business model is "powered")

There is clearly an interaction here with the work Peter and I have started on
the shape of the overall framework. For example, on the second set of issues
listed above, we need to decide which issues to deal with under the "business
model" heading, and which to deal with under other elements of the framework.

If you agree, I suggest that a useful next step might be for Nigel and I to get
together in London with a white board, and go through the current version of the
business model looking at how best to address all of these points, with the aim
of recommending a revised visual representation, and a view on the right
boundaries between "business model" and other issues in the wider framework.
What do you think Nigel? I could do a session on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday
morning next week. If you have time in that window, we'd be able to have a
first pass at this ahead of the TC call on Thursday afternoon.

Chris Parker

Managing Partner, CS Transform Ltd, +44 7951 754 060

________________________________ From: Colin Wallis [mailto:Coli@dia.govt.nz] Sent: 11 January 2011 00:30 To: tg@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [tgf] RE: TGF Business Model

Thanks Nig I put my thoughts in..

From: Greenaway Nigel [mailto:Nig.@uk.fujitsu.com] Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:06 a.m. To: tg@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [tgf] TGF Business Model

Hi All, I have put some comments/suggestions on the Business model up on the
wiki at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/tgf

I would welcome your comments on this

Regards

Nig

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________________________________ From: John Borras [mailto:john@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 10 January 2011 09:00 To: tg@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [tgf] OASIS TGF TC - ACTIONS FROM LAST MEETING

Hi All

Welcome back after the festive break. Just a gentle reminder to start the New
year of the actions from our last TC meeting. Can I ask that we have some
positive progress to report on next week's call from everyone please and if
decisions are needed on any aspect can the question(s) be posted in advance of
the call. I'll be posting the agenda, call-in details and any relevant papers
for the TC call later this week.

Actions:

1. John to keep the EC abreast of the developments of the TC. - Peter will
be reporting on his recent meeting with Karel de Vriendt

2. John to obtain webcast users from WB.

3. Assignees to prepare output for approval or decisions at next meeting.

a. Peter/Chris- to produce the reference model, glossary of terms and the
development of the overall framework and narrative

b. Oliver/Colin - Validate the set of Principles

c. Andy - Validate the CSFs

d. Nigel - Validate the Business change model

e. All - to sign up to the Wiki and contribute to the discussions on the
various aspects.

4. Gershon to review OECD activity.

5. Steve to post OECD white paper to Wiki.

6. Gershon/Peter to translate key materials in other languages in due
course.

7. John - to arrange for a Wiki to be set up to enable discussions and
collaboration - completed

Regards John Borras

Chair OASIS TGF Technical Committee

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