atom feed31 messages in at.iem.pd-devRe: [PD-dev] uninitialized values bug
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Mathieu BouchardSep 23, 2005 11:17 pm 
Frank BarknechtSep 29, 2005 11:16 pm 
Mathieu BouchardSep 29, 2005 11:29 pm 
Frank BarknechtSep 29, 2005 11:30 pm 
zmoe...@iem.atSep 30, 2005 12:42 am 
Mathieu BouchardSep 30, 2005 12:55 am 
Tim BlechmannSep 30, 2005 2:19 am 
Frank BarknechtSep 30, 2005 2:22 am 
Thomas GrillSep 30, 2005 2:30 am 
Tim BlechmannSep 30, 2005 3:15 am 
IOhannes m zmoelnigSep 30, 2005 3:54 am 
David Plans CasalSep 30, 2005 4:24 am 
Tim BlechmannSep 30, 2005 4:36 am 
Mathieu BouchardOct 3, 2005 9:27 pm 
David Plans CasalOct 4, 2005 12:48 am 
Hans-Christoph SteinerOct 5, 2005 9:44 pm 
David Plans CasalOct 5, 2005 11:58 pm 
Yves DegoyonOct 6, 2005 4:55 am 
Mathieu BouchardOct 6, 2005 11:45 am 
Guenter GeigerOct 6, 2005 12:21 pm 
Tim BlechmannOct 6, 2005 12:35 pm 
Thomas GrillOct 6, 2005 1:35 pm 
Yves DegoyonOct 6, 2005 4:42 pm 
Mathieu BouchardOct 7, 2005 8:24 am 
David Plans CasalOct 7, 2005 8:52 am 
Guenter GeigerOct 7, 2005 9:16 am 
Mathieu BouchardOct 7, 2005 9:01 pm 
Mathieu BouchardOct 7, 2005 9:42 pm 
Mathieu BouchardOct 7, 2005 11:22 pm 
Yves DegoyonOct 8, 2005 4:48 am 
Mathieu BouchardOct 10, 2005 5:28 pm 
Subject:Re: [PD-dev] uninitialized values bug
From:Hans-Christoph Steiner (ha@eds.org)
Date:Oct 5, 2005 9:44:36 pm
List:at.iem.pd-dev

On Sep 30, 2005, at 3:56 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Frank Barknecht wrote:

Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

What's the purpose of providing a diff if everyone who wants the feature can also get devel-pd with very little additional effort ?

The reason for providing patches/diffs was discussed a lot on pd~convention: It makes it much easier to get bugfixes etc. into the most used version of Pd, that is MSP Pd - both for Miller and for users who for whatever reason don't want to or can switch to devel_039, DesireData, PureEvil or so.

I have a few questions for everybody.

What's my incentive to serve those users?

What were the assumptions underlying the discussion at PureData Convention? Are those assumptions valid?

Why shouldn't more users use devel_0_39 ?

Why should I make efforts to contribute to a branch I don't plan to continue to use, and that I wish gets replaced by devel_0_39 in day-to-day use?

Many people here make contributions to aspects of Pd that they never use. That part of what makes it an great community. I have contributed a little to the devel branch and I have _never_ used it. But I figured it was easy enough for me to do, and it'd take someone else much longer, so I went ahead and did it.

But I can definitely tell you now that any interest I might have had in helping the devel/inpure/whatever branch is rapidly evaporating. You guys need to come down off your high horses, you are all using Miller's Pd. Most of the code in that branch was still written by Miller.

.hc

But your changes for uninitialized values sound like a simple bugfix, where a patch would be possible and a nice thing to do.

That's cool, it means that you just found one nice thing that you could do for Miller and normal users who have a compiler but don't want to check out devel_0_39 and enjoy applying diffs that Miller hasn't applied himself.

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