Hello,

My name is Julian, I am the Managing Director of Netways and I would like to
comment on some of the questions raised or accusations made. I am sorry that I
cannot reply to the original thread, but my email address was removed from the
mailing list.

As everybody else, I also think that the situation we are now in, is very very
bad and I hated supporting all the things we did on Wednesday. But I think we
had no other choice.

Am 06.05.09 17:56 schrieb "Ethan Galstad" unter <egal...@nagios.com>:

Of course it is not dead. I even think that Nagios is currently at the top of
the hype cycle. Almost everybody talks about it and it is now even known by
upper management and the suits. To give an example, here in Germany, there is no
major car manufacturer that does not already use Nagios or at least has concrete
plans to do so.

But Nagios will not stay at the top of this hype cycle, because numerous
alternatives are currently rising or are already there and are trying to
overtake Nagios. Almost in every meeting with prospect customers we are
confronted with questions about other open source monitoring tools, like Zabbix,
Zenoss, Pandora FMS, etc. and how Nagios compares to them. At the moment it is
still possible to convince people in favor of Nagios by telling them about the
huge and active community, the large number of add-ons or plugins. But I am
pretty sure that, given the actual development speed of Nagios, that in 1 or 2
years the other tools will have won.

Another example: Just last week we hosted another open source conference and had
one talk by the creater of Zabbix. In the audience there were some long time
Nagios users, who said after the talk, that they would give Zabbix a try,
because it looked so much better and had so many more features providing less
pain compared to Nagios. They even started posting about Zabbix on the
http://www.nagios-portal.org forum.

Much bigger evidence of this development are studies and comparisons people make
and put online about different open source monitoring systems. Almost in every
case Nagios is no longer the first tool of choice. Best case it is second. One
good example is here (just jump to the conclusion on page 148) http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jane/open_source_mgmt_options.pdf

Yes, there are issues, but I think both sides have made mistakes here. I just
send an email to Ethan with a suggestion to settle this. Nevertheless the fork
has nothing to do with the trademark. How could it? I cannot see any reason why
that would make sense for us.

That is not true:

First, we were approached by members of the German community, not the other way
round. Second, this fork is supported by 50% of Nagios Enterprises Advisory
Board. These are the people that Ethan said were there to advise him in
community matters. They tried multiple times to bring all the problems, issues
and thoughts to the table. They not even talked and mailed, they also did actual
work, like implementing a patch queue, which was ignored by Ethan.

We are not just users here. A lot of the positive things of Nagios derive from
the add-ons and the community. So the fork contributors have contributed very
much to the previous success of Nagios, by developing add-ons organizing
conferences and workshops and so on. And they do not want to see this dying,
because Nagios is to good to die.

Julian

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