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Subject:Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!
From:Roman Haefeli (redu@gmail.com)
Date:Sep 15, 2010 12:22:09 pm
List:at.iem.pd-list

On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 09:13 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Its never possible to fix all known bugs in a given release.

Yeah, I understand. I was assuming that it is only about adding another entry to /usr/lib/pd-extended/default.pdextended . If it is really that simple I don't see a reason not to do it just now. If not, I understand your hesitation.

The combination of the big single package that Pd-extended currently is with the single packages for each library in /usr/lib/pd makes for a very complicated situation.

Probably I am overseeing something, but how can it harm to load something from /usr/lib/pd after all other default pathes have been checked? I believe, that is what now users have to do anyway when they want to use something like gridflow or [readanysf~] in pdextended: adding /usr/lib/pd/extra to the pathes.

So its much less work to just wait for went Pd-extended is also packaged as one-lib-per-package, then this will be solved with very little work.

Yo, I didn't mean to open another can of worms, of course. But I am not sure, if I can see a can at all here.

Roman

On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 19:45 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Pd-extended 0.42.5 is done, so it'll stay as is.

Ok. Since you called, I thought I'd report what I think needs to be fixed.

Pd-extended 0.43 will work with /usr/lib/pd. For 0.43, only libs that require Pd- extended will be installed into /usr/lib/pdextended.

Sounds good, though I still don't understand why not fixing it right now.

On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 16:38 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

That means that it installs all its libs into /usr/lib/ pdextended

Yeah, makes sense also to me.

and ignores /usr/lib/pd.

Why?

You seem to ignore the fact, that there are pd-libs around in the wild, that are _not_ part of Pd-extended and thus would be very useful to be used together with Pd-extended, but unfortunately do not work out-of-the-box, because pdextended doesn't look in /usr/lib/pd.

I'd propose to add /usr/lib/pd as the last path in the search order, so that it wouldn't interfere with everything installed in /usr/lib/pd-extended. I don't see how this would hurt with the current behaviour. When having pd-motex installed and using some objects from motex, still /usr/lib/pd-extended would be used (instead of /usr/lib/pd, where pd-motex installs to). Nevertheless, [wiimote] from pd-wiimote which installs to /usr/lib/pd would be found.

Please enlighten me, if I am overseeing something and my proposal would actually break something.

The next step for Debian packaging for Pd-extended is having each lib in its own package, and then making a 'pdextended' package which provides 'pd' and is just the core. That will then look in /usr/ lib/pd.

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