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| Chris Byrnes | Apr 29, 2001 9:24 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 29, 2001 9:29 pm | |
| David W.Chapman Jr. | Apr 29, 2001 9:31 pm | |
| Christopher Schulte | Apr 29, 2001 9:32 pm | |
| Mike Tancsa | Apr 29, 2001 9:33 pm | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 29, 2001 9:34 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 29, 2001 10:04 pm | |
| Chris Byrnes | Apr 29, 2001 10:07 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 29, 2001 10:08 pm | |
| Kris Kennaway | Apr 29, 2001 10:12 pm | |
| David W.Chapman Jr. | Apr 29, 2001 10:15 pm | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 29, 2001 10:15 pm | |
| Ted Faber | Apr 29, 2001 10:21 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 29, 2001 10:55 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 29, 2001 10:55 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 29, 2001 10:58 pm | |
| David W. Chapman Jr. | Apr 29, 2001 11:04 pm | |
| Steve O'Hara-Smith | Apr 29, 2001 11:20 pm | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 29, 2001 11:30 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 29, 2001 11:53 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 29, 2001 11:53 pm | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 29, 2001 11:58 pm | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 30, 2001 12:00 am | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 30, 2001 12:11 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Apr 30, 2001 12:18 am | |
| Mike Meyer | Apr 30, 2001 12:23 am | |
| Andre Goeree | Apr 30, 2001 12:33 am | |
| Valentin Nechayev | Apr 30, 2001 1:03 am | |
| Valentin Nechayev | Apr 30, 2001 1:18 am | |
| Raymond Wiker | Apr 30, 2001 1:54 am | |
| David Malone | Apr 30, 2001 2:13 am | |
| Kal Torak | Apr 30, 2001 2:24 am | |
| Panagiotis Astithas | Apr 30, 2001 2:33 am | |
| Oliver Fromme | Apr 30, 2001 5:03 am | |
| Donn Miller | Apr 30, 2001 6:23 am | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Apr 30, 2001 8:43 am | |
| Ted Faber | Apr 30, 2001 9:00 am | |
| Chris Byrnes | Apr 30, 2001 9:08 am | |
| Arthur W. Neilson III | Apr 30, 2001 11:41 am | |
| Donn Miller | Apr 30, 2001 11:53 am | |
| Sue Blake | Apr 30, 2001 12:35 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 30, 2001 12:43 pm | |
| Lyndon Nerenberg | Apr 30, 2001 12:48 pm | |
| Lyndon Nerenberg | Apr 30, 2001 12:53 pm | |
| Dan Langille | Apr 30, 2001 1:01 pm | |
| Fred Gilham | Apr 30, 2001 1:39 pm | |
| Juha Saarinen | Apr 30, 2001 2:02 pm | |
| Chad R. Larson | Apr 30, 2001 6:27 pm | |
| Steve O'Hara-Smith | Apr 30, 2001 10:29 pm | |
| Jano Lukac | Apr 30, 2001 10:37 pm | |
| Jordan Hubbard | May 1, 2001 12:16 am | |
| Doug Russell | May 1, 2001 2:22 am | |
| Doug Russell | May 1, 2001 4:28 am | |
| Matthew Hunt | May 1, 2001 9:36 am | |
| Christian Chen | May 2, 2001 12:33 am | |
| Oliver Fromme | May 2, 2001 2:55 am |
| Subject: | Re: tail | |
|---|---|---|
| From: | Doug Russell (drus...@saturn-tech.com) | |
| Date: | May 1, 2001 2:22:53 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-stable | |
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Arthur W. Neilson III wrote:
This very functionality, being able to cat a directory, saved my butt some years
ago on an unfamiliar sys5r2 box which had crashed and no filesystem but root
would mount. ls wasn't in the path and I remembered I could use cat dirname as
a crude ls in order to navigate. This helped me find fsck in an obscure
directory
and repair the hosed filesystems and recover the system.
echo * is another handy way to do that sometimes when nothing is available.
I, also, have used the ability of most programs to read directories in an emergency situation. I also often use utilities like tail on binaries, etc. Just because your output is directed to a terminal doesn't mean a program shouldn't do what I want it to.
I've often though of these little nicities, and it seems to me that a broader approach should be taken. Someone with the time could start a package that could be installed, perhaps at various different levels, that would make things prettier, include extra error messages, perhaps, eliminate (block) some dangerous commands, easy access to help, some menued commands perhaps, etc. etc.
You could then put your machine in "user friendly" mode if desired, but those of us who expect Unix to behave like Unix can set it to mode 0. There could be levels in between without the "Are you sure you are really sure you answered the last are you sure question correctly?", but not quite totally bare.....
Just a few thoughts I've had burried for some time....
Later...... <Doug>
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