atom feed48 messages in net.launchpad.lists.openstackRe: [Openstack] best practices for me...
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Subject:Re: [Openstack] best practices for merging common into specific projects
From:Doug Hellmann (doug@dreamhost.com)
Date:Jul 23, 2012 8:50:28 am
List:net.launchpad.lists.openstack

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Thierry Carrez <thie@openstack.org>wrote:

Mark McLoughlin wrote:

Making our multiple projects converge onto consolidated and well-accepted APIs is a bit painful work, but it is a prerequisite to turning openstack-common into a proper library (or set of libraries).

I'd say the whole thing suffers from not having a proper team/leader/coordinator dedicated to it: relying on existing, overstretched PTLs to lead that effort might not be the fastest path.

While I was on vacation, I read in the weekly newsletter:

"It developed into a request for leadership for openstack-common"

and was like "WTF do you call the work that e.g. I, Jason, Russell and Doug have been doing?"

But I see your point is a little different - you feel there should be an elected/appointed "PTL without a PPB vote" or whatever to represent the project. I guess that could help clarify things since it's what folks are used to with other projects.

Right. So far we said that openstack-common was driven by "all the PTLs", but that didn't prove particularly fast and efficient. Having a clear face associated with it, someone specific taking the "lead" on this project, will, I think, help a bit in getting to the next step.

Sorry if this rekindles old arguments, but could someone summarize the reasons for an openstack-common "PTL" without voting rights? I would have defaulted to giving them a vote *especially* because the code in common is, well, common to all of the projects.

Doug