| From | Sent On | Attachments |
|---|---|---|
| Horsley Tom | May 25, 2000 10:31 am | |
| Chris Nandor | May 25, 2000 10:53 am | |
| Peter Scott | May 25, 2000 11:07 am | |
| Horsley Tom | May 25, 2000 11:27 am | |
| Steve Lane | May 25, 2000 11:47 am | |
| Chris Nandor | May 25, 2000 11:57 am | |
| Ben_...@trepp.com | May 25, 2000 12:27 pm | |
| (Simon Cozens) | May 25, 2000 12:30 pm | |
| Horsley Tom | May 25, 2000 12:32 pm | |
| (Johan Vromans) | May 25, 2000 12:44 pm | |
| Chris Nandor | May 25, 2000 12:59 pm | |
| Elaine -HFB- Ashton | May 25, 2000 1:20 pm | |
| David H. Adler | May 25, 2000 1:25 pm | |
| Peter Scott | May 25, 2000 1:34 pm | |
| Ben_...@trepp.com | May 25, 2000 2:03 pm | |
| Kurt D. Starsinic | May 25, 2000 2:14 pm | |
| Tom Christiansen | May 25, 2000 2:33 pm | |
| Tom Christiansen | May 25, 2000 2:41 pm | |
| Tom Christiansen | May 25, 2000 2:42 pm | |
| Tom Christiansen | May 25, 2000 2:44 pm | |
| Tom Christiansen | May 25, 2000 2:46 pm | |
| Elaine -HFB- Ashton | May 25, 2000 3:13 pm | |
| Chris Nandor | May 25, 2000 3:44 pm | |
| Tzadik and Sheva Vanderhoof | May 25, 2000 7:13 pm | |
| Robert | May 25, 2000 10:54 pm | |
| Matt Sergeant | May 26, 2000 12:21 am | |
| Horsley Tom | May 26, 2000 4:05 am | |
| Peterson, Jonathan | May 26, 2000 4:28 am | |
| Horsley Tom | May 26, 2000 4:36 am | |
| Adam Turoff | May 26, 2000 4:52 am | |
| Chris Nandor | May 26, 2000 5:14 am | |
| Elaine -HFB- Ashton | May 26, 2000 7:11 am | |
| Chris Nandor | May 26, 2000 7:22 am | |
| Tom Christiansen | May 26, 2000 8:01 am | |
| Dan Sugalski | May 26, 2000 8:20 am | |
| Matt Sergeant | May 26, 2000 8:28 am | |
| David Grove | May 26, 2000 8:50 am | |
| Elaine -HFB- Ashton | May 26, 2000 8:57 am | |
| Chris Nandor | May 26, 2000 9:31 am | |
| Adam Turoff | May 26, 2000 9:46 am | |
| Vanderhoof, Tzadik | May 26, 2000 10:14 am | |
| Elaine -HFB- Ashton | May 26, 2000 6:20 pm | |
| 'Elaine -HFB- Ashton' | May 27, 2000 8:12 am | |
| David Grove | May 27, 2000 7:10 pm | |
| Robert | May 27, 2000 9:24 pm | |
| Elaine -HFB- Ashton | May 27, 2000 9:48 pm | |
| David Grove | May 28, 2000 12:40 am | |
| Elaine -HFB- Ashton | May 28, 2000 7:22 am | |
| Jonathan Scott Duff | May 28, 2000 7:00 pm | |
| Robert | May 28, 2000 8:03 pm | |
| Chip Salzenberg | May 29, 2000 7:49 pm | |
| Chip Salzenberg | May 29, 2000 7:59 pm | |
| Chip Salzenberg | May 29, 2000 8:06 pm | |
| Ask Bjoern Hansen | Jun 3, 2000 9:00 am | |
| Uri Guttman | Jun 7, 2000 9:32 am | |
| (Simon Cozens) | Jun 7, 2000 5:13 pm | |
| Ask Bjoern Hansen | Jun 19, 2000 1:09 pm |
| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on maintaining perl | |
|---|---|---|
| From: | Chris Nandor (pud...@pobox.com) | |
| Date: | May 25, 2000 3:44:12 pm | |
| List: | org.perl.advocacy | |
At 17.14 -0500 2000.05.25, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
Tom Christiansen [tchr...@chthon.perl.com] quoth: *>more conceptual blindspots. It's like knowing how to boil but not *>fry. Programming is not a skill one develops in five easy lessons.
Indeed. But, what is it about Perl that attracts the sort of mythology it has? Splitting the hairs of reality aside, the perception of people who either haven't used it or have only dabbled is that it's bloated, inefficient, hard to learn, obfuscated, hard to maintain, etc.
Well, not all of those criticisms are entirely undeserved. But the reason they are so widespread is because Perl is so popular. Not only does the popular technology attract a lot of criticism (due and undue), but it attracts people who make it look worse than it is.
A rather bright engineer here recently commented that "Perl is not for production code, period." and he has never actually used the language. How can you defend Perl to someone who is in a policy making position, is stubborn and has this perception of Perl he has picked up from the net, colleagues, etc.? You can't.
Well, I would tell him that he is not as bright as he thinks, and if he persists, inform him that he is downright ignorant. I'd say it as politely as possible and necessary, of course. But I would say it.
I'm using more shell and awk than I have in years these days.
I'd get another job. Using other languages is fine. But spending my days drearily plodding through awk and shell when I could be having fun in Perl is, like, real work or something.
-- Chris Nandor | pud...@pobox.com | http://pudge.net/ Andover.Net | chri...@andover.net | http://slashcode.com/





