On 1 Jan 2006, at 17:48, ydeg...@free.fr wrote:

Hola.

I'm sorry to perpetuate this thread, and promise not to reply again and heed Frank's advice. I too think this discussion is getting childish. I've changed the subject line because I do see personal names on subject lines as totally gross (in the Apache Software Foundation, doing that can get you a real butt kicking).

However, I can't resist commenting on the following:

Some of my own family suffered under Pinochet in Chile and under opression in Argentina. Also, I was raised in Spain not a couple of years after Franco finally died, and experienced first hand what a police baton feels like on your ribs when you're shouting 'Freedom'. Yes, in the 70s and 80s. I find your comparison of this discussion and its (personal or not) implications and the suffering of people in those countries offensive and unuseful.

Moreover, it is inappropriate and out of place in this list, IMHO. I've been on the PD list since 1998 one way or another and have always found that while there are strong, sometimes diverging opinions, there has always been enough healthy common sense and open- minded attitude to cope with any kind of argument.

I am active in the FFII's Software Patents vs Parliamentary Democracy campaign (http://swpat.ffii.org/) and have worked in the FLOSS environment commercially for the last 5 years; copyright isn't the problem: patents are. When you attack a single software developer for copyrighting their software (and no, I don't necessarily agree personally with that approach, in that I personally try to find the funding to release in the open), you undermine the real fight against software progress and the freedom organisations such as the FFII campaign for.

Aw come on. Calmate i bebe una cerveza. At the end of the day, neither Matthieu's work nor Chris' in any way stop you from doing what you do, and participating still in the larger PD effort, do they? I can't see how that could be.

I personally hope we can drop this and just get on with the general PD work (on main or devel_0_39 or on our own externals or all of the above); 2006 looks like an exciting year already to me (seen Grill's ecard? ;-) ) and I sincerely hope we can cope with a little flame war.

Asbestos suits for all!

Yours,

David