Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:

Okay, replying to myself: The attached patch IMO illustrates a severe bug with the aliasing. It is possible to have the same object in a patch behave differently depending on opaque circumstances like creation order. That's not only weird, it's nasty.

Generally from time to time Pd will get new builtins that may use names of objects, that are already in some library. These internals should not be overwritten by the old externals by default, but overwriting may be included as an optional feature. So I would suggest something like a (gloabl or canvas-local) switch that explicitly enables builtin-overwriting. That way, Cyclone could still import Max patches, but zexy-pack wouldn't break anything in the default case. Still IOhannes would be able to use his pack when developing and RjDj could overwrite [soundfiler] with a [soundfiler] external that also loads ogg-files.

Cyclone's fragile part probably could even be simplified in the code.

Ciao