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| Subject: | Re: [DISCUSS] Do we really need an incubator? | |
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| From: | William A. Rowe, Jr. (wro...@rowe-clan.net) | |
| Date: | Jul 9, 2008 1:41:56 pm | |
| List: | org.apache.incubator.general | |
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
However, the Maven repository situation has little to do with the need for an Incubator.
Obviously you choose to pick out everying Ron's writing about the flaws in Maven / the Maven repository while at the same time carefully ignoring everything he's writing about the "necessity" of a special incubator repository.
I think you need to reread Roy's post, which spelled out exactly why he believes "There is no reason for a separate repository."
Noel isn't cherry picking, but your comment is flailing about without any contribution to what that necessity actually is.
Folks seem to believe maven helps users make decisions about the individual components they want. It does no such thing. It helps users decide to use a particular top level package with all of its warts, wrinkles and obscure dependencies, and *shields* the user from those details. Having a separate repository would actually run against the end user goals for Maven. If they inspect package dependencies, and see foo-incubating rev 0.0.1 or higher in those dependencies, that's all we need to insure. It's no different than encountering thirdparty bar rev 0.0.1 beta or higher.