17 messages in at.iem.pd-listRe: [PD] String editing| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Thomas Sivertsen | Jun 28, 2004 8:52 am | |
| Thomas Sivertsen | Jun 28, 2004 9:31 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Jun 28, 2004 9:32 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Jun 28, 2004 10:23 am | |
| Thomas Sivertsen | Jun 28, 2004 6:47 pm | |
| Thomas Sivertsen | Jun 28, 2004 6:50 pm | |
| Thomas Sivertsen | Jun 28, 2004 6:52 pm | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Jun 28, 2004 11:40 pm | |
| Thomas Sivertsen | Jun 29, 2004 1:10 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Jun 29, 2004 1:49 am | |
| guenter geiger | Jun 29, 2004 2:27 am | |
| Frank Barknecht | Jun 29, 2004 2:49 am | |
| IOhannes m zmoelnig | Jun 29, 2004 4:15 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Jun 30, 2004 9:19 pm | |
| Yves Degoyon | Jul 1, 2004 7:10 am | |
| Thomas Sivertsen | Jul 2, 2004 10:11 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Jul 7, 2004 4:54 pm |
| Subject: | Re: [PD] String editing | |
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| From: | IOhannes m zmoelnig (zmoe...@iem.at) | |
| Date: | Jun 29, 2004 4:15:38 am | |
| List: | at.iem.pd-list | |
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Thomas Sivertsen hat gesagt: // Thomas Sivertsen wrote:
Ah, yes. I get this. The weird thing is happening in [prepend] then, because it does not handle the symbol as an identifier for the data, but as part of the data. Now, which version/incantation of [prepend], you may ask?
The prepend from Cyclone does not do this. Maybe you are using the one from IEMlib? Or the one in Ggee or prepend2 or ...
the problem i see is, that it often makes sense to prepend another identifier to "anythings".
eg: i have a message [play myfile.wav( ("play" being an identifier) and want to transmit this message via [netsend] so i have to prepend a "send" identifier to get [send play myfile.way(. one could argue, that "symbol" should be handled in a different way, but probably i would like to transmit a symbol "mobo" via netsend: if i would substitute the "symbol" by "send" (e.g: [send mobo() i would receive an identifier "mobo" on the [netreceive] side, which i cannot just convert with [symbol] if i also want to send things like [play myfile.wav( over the same [netsend]/[netreceive] connection (because it would strip down to a symbol "play" without the "myfile.wav")
so what to do ? a) make pd's message-type system more consistent (will probably break quite everything) b) use [a2l] (bias!!) or something similar with a standardized (as you suggested) [prepend]
probably it would be a good idea to make [a2l] built into pd too (maybe [trigger list] should be enhanced to convert anythings to lists)
and of course günter is right, when he points out the inconsistency between [append] and [prepend] but there is really not very much we could do about it (apart from renaming all the datastructure-stuff to something more specific)
mfg.asd.r IOhannes