9 messages in net.nether.puck.cisco-nsp[c-nsp] Cisco Certifications
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Kim OnnelJan 22, 2005 7:23 am 
Brian FeenyJan 22, 2005 11:04 am 
Stephen J. WilcoxJan 22, 2005 4:26 pm 
David BarakJan 22, 2005 9:09 pm 
Brian FeenyJan 22, 2005 10:28 pm 
Tristan GulyasJan 23, 2005 3:42 am 
Ryan O'ConnellJan 23, 2005 4:21 am 
Stephen J. WilcoxJan 23, 2005 10:45 am 
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Subject:[c-nsp] Cisco CertificationsActions...
From:David Barak (theg@yahoo.com)
Date:Jan 22, 2005 9:09:49 pm
List:net.nether.puck.cisco-nsp

--- Kim Onnel <karim.adel at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I'm new to the ISP/networking business here, and there is this weird concept that i dont get around the scene here,

Your resume will look ugly if it doesnt have any certs. But if it does, instantly the other party will think, well son, you seem to have certs and thats fine, but that is not counted compared to practical real experience boy,

I'm sure y'all look at resumes alot, and do alot of hiring, i'd like to know how you guys weight Certs when they look at someones resumes, and how do they weight practical experience,...

Specially these days, when its all about cheat sheets/testkings, and people going in there knowing the questions before-hand?

<disclaimer> I do technical interviews for senior networking folks </ disclaimer>

Certs are fine, but they have no bearing on the questions I ask. The most important thing you can do is BE HONEST. If you put it on your resume, I'm going to consider it fair game for questions, and if you're faking, the interview is over. Examples of faked things on resumes I've seen recently include:

IGRP: ok, when EXACTLY was the last time anyone used this in practice? if it's more than 10 years, leave it off. If it's on the resume, I'll dredge up a question for you regarding the difference between IGRP and something else...

Appletalk: I've had 4 candidates in the past month include appletalk on their resumes, and none have used it within the past 7 years. One fellow went so far as to include AURP (the Appletalk routing protocol) in the list of skills, even though it had been more than 10 years since he had used it. It's too bad, because I actually crafted some pretty good questions... <sigh>

MPLS: If you only have book knowledge of something, then you don't really know it, and it doesn't belong in a skill-list.

That said, Certs will get you past recruiters, so they're useful for that. However, many of the intro-level certs test on things which are completely divorced from real-world scenarios. An example is that the CCNA includes stuff about IGRP and classful networking, and some of the assumptions you have to make to pass it haven't been valid since pre IOS 11.1 days...