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| Chia-liang Kao | Sep 1, 2008 8:19 am | |
| Moritz Lenz | Sep 1, 2008 8:57 am | |
| Chia-liang Kao | Sep 1, 2008 9:21 am | |
| Nicholas Clark | Sep 1, 2008 9:37 am | |
| Eric Wilhelm | Sep 1, 2008 10:55 am | |
| Nicholas Clark | Sep 1, 2008 12:05 pm | |
| H.Merijn Brand | Sep 1, 2008 1:47 pm | |
| chromatic | Sep 1, 2008 8:05 pm | |
| Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes | Sep 1, 2008 8:41 pm | |
| Jesse Vincent | Sep 1, 2008 9:45 pm | |
| chromatic | Sep 1, 2008 10:50 pm | |
| H.Merijn Brand | Sep 1, 2008 11:17 pm | |
| Jesse Vincent | Sep 1, 2008 11:30 pm | |
| Gabor Szabo | Sep 1, 2008 11:33 pm | |
| Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes | Sep 1, 2008 11:40 pm | |
| Jesse Vincent | Sep 1, 2008 11:40 pm | |
| Jesse Vincent | Sep 1, 2008 11:50 pm | |
| Moritz Lenz | Sep 2, 2008 12:16 am | |
| Moritz Lenz | Sep 2, 2008 12:19 am | |
| Sven Dowideit | Sep 2, 2008 12:22 am | |
| Steffen Mueller | Sep 2, 2008 1:13 am | |
| chromatic | Sep 2, 2008 1:37 am | |
| Nicholas Clark | Sep 2, 2008 1:46 am | |
| Andy Dougherty | Sep 2, 2008 5:16 am | |
| Andy Armstrong | Sep 2, 2008 5:21 am | |
| Chris Prather | Sep 2, 2008 6:57 am | |
| Tels | Sep 2, 2008 10:15 am | |
| chromatic | Sep 2, 2008 10:26 am | |
| chromatic | Sep 2, 2008 10:30 am | |
| David Golden | Sep 2, 2008 10:30 am | |
| David Golden | Sep 2, 2008 10:41 am | |
| Nicholas Clark | Sep 2, 2008 10:46 am | |
| chromatic | Sep 2, 2008 10:56 am | |
| Nicholas Clark | Sep 2, 2008 11:25 am | |
| David Golden | Sep 2, 2008 12:29 pm | |
| chromatic | Sep 2, 2008 1:05 pm | |
| Dave Mitchell | Sep 2, 2008 1:21 pm | |
| Nicholas Clark | Sep 2, 2008 1:25 pm | |
| Nicholas Clark | Sep 2, 2008 1:50 pm | |
| Eric Wilhelm | Sep 2, 2008 4:03 pm | |
| Rafael Garcia-Suarez | Sep 3, 2008 11:21 pm | |
| Nicholas Clark | Sep 4, 2008 12:43 am | |
| Aristotle Pagaltzis | Sep 4, 2008 2:35 am | |
| Nicholas Clark | Sep 4, 2008 2:40 am | |
| David Cantrell | Sep 4, 2008 3:38 am | |
| David Nicol | Sep 4, 2008 12:24 pm | |
| David Landgren | Sep 14, 2008 1:13 pm |
| Subject: | Re: Upgrading Perl Should be Dull and Boring (was Re: forcing older perl to use an older version of cpan module?) | |
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| From: | Jesse Vincent (jes...@fsck.com) | |
| Date: | Sep 1, 2008 9:45:59 pm | |
| List: | org.perl.perl5-porters | |
Maybe it's possible to solve both problems by giving up the polite fiction that the feature-based release process works.
I was one of the original instigators of Parrot's monthly release plan, though I think it did postdate Nick's plan to do the same thing with Perl 5.8.
I haven't had much to do with the Parrot release cycle since its inception. It does seem to be working pretty well for Parrot and didn't work out well for Perl 5. My _guess_ about why it worked for Parrot is that we set it up with a rotating roster of monthly release engineers and a schedule 4-5 months out. If one of the volunteers couldn't do the release, the schedule just slid up a month.
Perl 5, on the other hand, has always been set up such that that the Pumpkings were both Emperor and Janitor. If the person doing the release isn't also the architect and chief coder, it might work better. And chromatic's right. When you release every month, you actually get to test your releng and upgrade tools.
chromatic,
If you were going to switch Perl over to an "every $PERIOD, whether we need it or not" release cycle, how would you do it? What can you tell p5p about what Parrot's learned about how to make the release cycle trivial and repeatable?
-Jesse





