21 messages in org.w3.www-htmlRE: FW: I-D ACTION:draft-connolly-tex...
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Arjun RaySep 27, 1999 6:31 pm 
Harald Tveit AlvestrandSep 28, 1999 10:51 am 
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Larry MasinterOct 4, 1999 1:06 pm 
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Arjun RayOct 6, 1999 10:17 am 
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Larry MasinterOct 8, 1999 2:55 am 
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Subject:RE: FW: I-D ACTION:draft-connolly-text-html-00.txtActions...
From:Arjun Ray (ar@q2.net)
Date:Oct 4, 1999 9:56:48 pm
List:org.w3.www-html

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Larry Masinter wrote:

Jukka wrote:

I suppose this contains more examples than would really be needed.

Actually, it would be great to have a complete list as feedback to the "Proposed Recommendation".

Agreed. And I can't think of a better person to compile such a list than Jukka!:)

Because something is obsoleted doesn't mean that it is no longer a reference to what the specification _used to be_. The RFC doesn't go away. But I wouldn't recommend anyone use the RFCs, either as guidelines for authoring or as a guideline for implementing.

I think this should be emphasized. Four years ago, attempting an SGML compliant implementation was obviously disastrous

<URL:http://www.nyct.net/~aray/htmlwg/rcs.html> <URL:http://www.nyct.net/~aray/htmlwg/1224.html>

The situation hasn't really changed in all this time.

If the HTML 4.01 document is inadequate, then we can and should fix it.

The one really important fixing it needs is to drop all normative references to ISO8879. Get rid of the parts and/or sections (such as notes on implementation constraints) occasioned by the lip service to SGML, and replace them with a BNF for Tag Soup. That, IMHO, would go a long way towards making 4.01 an honest spec.

At times, highmindedness and humbug can be indistinguishable.

Arjun