12 messages in org.openmoko.lists.communityNTT-NoGoMoKo in Japan, plus falling back
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Vicente Alcañiz BucetaJul 8, 2007 5:48 pm 
Jason ElwellJul 8, 2007 7:37 pm 
Tim KnappJul 8, 2007 7:56 pm 
David PottageJul 8, 2007 8:07 pm 
Shakthi KannanJul 8, 2007 8:20 pm 
Tim NewsomJul 8, 2007 9:09 pm 
Mikko RauhalaJul 8, 2007 9:28 pm 
kenneth markenJul 8, 2007 9:46 pm 
Tim NewsomJul 8, 2007 10:52 pm 
Flemming Richter MikkelsenJul 8, 2007 11:14 pm 
Eric van HorssenJul 8, 2007 11:24 pm 
kenneth markenJul 8, 2007 11:42 pm 
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Subject:NTT-NoGoMoKo in Japan, plus falling backActions...
From:kenneth marken (k-ma@online.no)
Date:Jul 8, 2007 11:42:34 pm
List:org.openmoko.lists.community

On Sunday 08 July 2007 23:11:01 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:

Many countries uses 3G. In Norway we use UMTS (and I think they use UMTS in the rest of Europe), while in the US you use CDMA.

there is one operator in norway that use CDMA. mainly for internet on the go, but they have been saying that they will release a phone for ages now.

On 7/8/07, Tim Newsom <ceph@gmail.com> wrote:

You misunderstand... What I meant was " Is 3G backward compatible for data with previous formats." Plus, i thought that only the US had any kind of cell company which uses cdma. I am quite surprised by that as I thought most if not all other countries used GSM. /shrug.

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:55, Mikko Rauhala wrote:

su, 2007-07-08 kello 12:00 -0700, Tim Newsom kirjoitti:

Um... Japan does have GSM service... I am positive as I recently had guests in my house from japan. They brought their cell phones and I showed them how to make them work in the US.

Means nothing. Their phones may be GSM-capable spesifically to work overseas. All of my info says that there's no GSM in Japan, but I haven't rechecked recently

Does EDGE fall back to gprs? Does 3G fall back to EDGE or GPRS if the phone doesn't support it?

Given a phone that supports all of the following, HSDPA will fall back to plain old UMTS will fall back to EDGE will fall back to GPRS, according to network availability. Japan, on the other hand, uses their own types of (W)CDMA networks.

"3G" falling back to EDGE or GPRS if the _phone_ doesn't support it is rather nonsensical notion. If a phone is a GSM phone, it will work in a GSM network. It will not work in a 3G network, so there's nothing to fall back _from_.

--Tim