atom feed42 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-portsRe: [HEADS UP] GNU make 3.82
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Ade LovettMar 10, 2011 9:43 am 
Doug BartonMar 10, 2011 11:24 am 
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Doug BartonMar 10, 2011 12:20 pm 
Ade LovettMar 10, 2011 12:52 pm 
Doug BartonMar 10, 2011 1:01 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 10, 2011 2:52 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 10, 2011 3:54 pm 
Robert HuffMar 10, 2011 4:01 pm 
Doug BartonMar 10, 2011 4:09 pm 
Ade LovettMar 10, 2011 7:45 pm 
Doug BartonMar 10, 2011 8:01 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 10, 2011 9:04 pm 
Ade LovettMar 10, 2011 9:24 pm 
Doug BartonMar 11, 2011 9:14 pm 
Jeremy MessengerMar 12, 2011 9:47 am 
Jeremy MessengerMar 12, 2011 10:13 am 
Christian WeisgerberMar 12, 2011 10:40 am 
Ade LovettMar 12, 2011 11:03 am 
Mark LinimonMar 12, 2011 12:44 pm 
Doug BartonMar 12, 2011 1:34 pm 
Michal VargaMar 12, 2011 1:46 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 12, 2011 1:47 pm 
Michal VargaMar 12, 2011 1:51 pm 
Doug BartonMar 12, 2011 1:54 pm 
Doug BartonMar 12, 2011 1:55 pm 
b. f.Mar 12, 2011 3:21 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 12, 2011 3:51 pm 
Ade LovettMar 12, 2011 4:00 pm 
Rob FarmerMar 12, 2011 5:13 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 12, 2011 5:45 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 12, 2011 5:46 pm 
Doug BartonMar 12, 2011 5:47 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 12, 2011 5:47 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 12, 2011 5:59 pm 
Doug BartonMar 12, 2011 6:30 pm 
b. f.Mar 12, 2011 6:45 pm 
Ade LovettMar 12, 2011 7:46 pm 
Peter JeremyMar 13, 2011 2:27 pm 
Mark LinimonMar 13, 2011 5:30 pm 
Ade LovettMar 13, 2011 8:44 pm 
Matthias AndreeMar 15, 2011 4:12 am 
Subject:Re: [HEADS UP] GNU make 3.82
From:b. f. (bf1@googlemail.com)
Date:Mar 12, 2011 3:21:49 pm
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-ports

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:14:50PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:

There are way too many things happening "in private" around here and the only way to solve that problem is to open the doors.

Would you please offer examples of decisions that you feel that way about?

We need not look any farther than this episode to see an example of how things could have been handled better. I don't think that the course of action that was ultimately adopted was unreasonable, but did we have to wait from the 8 October, when I filed ports/151312, until your forwarded message of 11 March:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-March/066478.html

to learn what was actually broken by the change, so that we could begin to fix it? Shortly after you sent your message to the lists, other people began to help. This could have happened a lot sooner, and we could have avoided some of this discreditable bickering.

b.