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Subject:Re: [PHP-DEV] Please let's not bitch about lazy users not learning C to implement THEIR missing feature. (Was Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again)
From:guil...@gmail.com (guil@gmail.com)
Date:May 9, 2011 10:31:56 am
List:net.php.lists.internals

Hi Richard,

Again what I commented on other thread and again you barely see what I mentioned, the feature is ALREADY written in C and compatible with latest PHP trunk. I'm not bitching against do and don't dos... I'm bitching about ignored feature that are not even discussed.

I agree with you, it's an Open Source project and any help from any front is valuable. But as I pointed out on other thread, only developers with php-src karma had features evaluated. If you think I'm wrong, please re-read the entire thread of Annotations and then get back to me with a single message on thread where actually had a discussion with some mature content instead of personal feelings.

Regards,

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Richard Quadling <rqua@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9 May 2011 15:44, guil@gmail.com <guil@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's very bad for the language and very bad for all of users.

But surely it is a motivational factor to learn C, and have a go at implementing the feature yourself! That's what Open Source is all about. If you don't like the feature, or it is missing one, _DO_ something about it. Saying that the developers are "not interested" isn't really doing anything.

You really can't expect volunteers to simply down tools from family, life, paid work to jump through hoops, attempting to make sense of every user's request. No matter how loud they shout.

Now. If you had a pot (and a big pot) of money, then maybe you could sponsor some developers for your pet peeve. I'll take your money.

As a volunteer to the PHP project (mainly making an arse of myself in as many places as possible) and a PHP user, I am deeply indebted to all the work undertaken by the core devs. I get paid because of them.

Please treat the devs nicely is all I'm really saying.

Richard.

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