61 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-questionsRe: ip masquerading | From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Clint Marek | May 16, 1996 8:02 pm | |
| Doug White | May 17, 1996 11:33 am | |
| Tony Kimball | May 17, 1996 2:11 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 17, 1996 2:23 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 17, 1996 6:04 pm | |
| Archie Cobbs | May 17, 1996 6:05 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 17, 1996 6:13 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 17, 1996 7:46 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 17, 1996 10:48 pm | |
| Archie Cobbs | May 18, 1996 1:23 am | |
| francis yeung | May 18, 1996 5:26 am | |
| Bruce A. Mah | May 18, 1996 8:43 am | |
| Eric J. Schwertfeger | May 18, 1996 11:06 am | |
| Stephen Hovey | May 18, 1996 11:59 am | |
| Archie Cobbs | May 18, 1996 1:05 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 18, 1996 3:15 pm | |
| Clint Marek | May 18, 1996 10:09 pm | |
| Michael Smith | May 18, 1996 10:36 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 19, 1996 12:50 am | |
| Carl Makin | May 19, 1996 5:01 am | |
| Pedro A M Vazquez | May 19, 1996 6:01 am | |
| Michael Smith | May 19, 1996 7:40 am | |
| Charlie ROOT | May 19, 1996 4:37 pm | |
| Michael Smith | May 19, 1996 7:07 pm | |
| Garrett Wollman | May 20, 1996 7:40 am | |
| Bruce A. Mah | May 20, 1996 8:37 am | |
| Tony Kimball | May 20, 1996 11:48 am | |
| Jim Dennis | May 20, 1996 12:47 pm | |
| Garrett Wollman | May 20, 1996 1:29 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 20, 1996 1:36 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 20, 1996 3:22 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 20, 1996 3:28 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 20, 1996 3:32 pm | |
| Gary Palmer | May 20, 1996 3:34 pm | |
| Archie Cobbs | May 20, 1996 3:42 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 20, 1996 3:45 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 20, 1996 3:56 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 20, 1996 4:15 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 20, 1996 4:54 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 20, 1996 5:09 pm | |
| Bruce A. Mah | May 20, 1996 5:10 pm | |
| Bruce A. Mah | May 20, 1996 5:23 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 20, 1996 5:25 pm | |
| Michael Smith | May 20, 1996 6:38 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 20, 1996 6:47 pm | |
| Jim Dennis | May 20, 1996 8:13 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 20, 1996 8:24 pm | |
| Jim Dennis | May 20, 1996 9:14 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 20, 1996 9:30 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | May 20, 1996 9:34 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 20, 1996 10:02 pm | |
| Bruce A. Mah | May 20, 1996 10:12 pm | |
| Bruce A. Mah | May 20, 1996 10:44 pm | |
| Tony Kimball | May 20, 1996 10:47 pm | |
| M.R.Murphy | May 21, 1996 5:59 am | |
| Carl Makin | May 21, 1996 6:46 am | |
| Terry Lambert | May 21, 1996 10:40 am | |
| Terry Lambert | May 21, 1996 10:45 am | |
| Scott Blachowicz | May 22, 1996 9:28 am | |
| Pedro A M Vazquez | May 22, 1996 11:13 am | |
| Bill Fenner | May 22, 1996 11:45 am |
| Subject: | Re: ip masquerading | |
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| From: | Bruce A. Mah (bm...@cs.berkeley.edu) | |
| Date: | May 20, 1996 10:44:35 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-questions | |
Tony Kimball writes:
> > > From the masquerade host. ICMP works fine, to the network > > interface of the *system*. UDP is not a host requirement. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To Tony: Are you saying that just because FTP, telnet, and Web don't run over UDP it's not important? I respectfully disagree.
I'm meaning that lack of support for UDP would not make a masquerade scheme violate host requirements.
OK, got it.
Frankly I haven't clue one about how to implement UDP masquerade, never having so much as glanced at the problem.
Me either. It's hard, no doubt about it.
To clarify another point: I do not advocate a linux-style implementation of masquerade. I'm just too ignorant of the alternatives to make a specific proposal, and too enthusiastically supportive of the functional goal to keep my mouth shut. A dangerous combination.
Well...I should clarify my POV (point of view) too, I guess. I'm kind of a traditionalist (I used to work down the hall from the Berkeley CSRG, maybe that has something to do with it). The idea of adding hacks to a system to support a workaround for ISP pricing makes me very uneasy (as do many of the newer developments on the Internet). If that's FUD, so be it.
TCP is *more* important the UDP, though, for the preponderance of "customers", that much seems obvious. UDP is second-order.
Given that all the Web stuff relies on TCP, I agree. For now. But multimedia applications tend to rely on UDP (for example, all of the MBONE tools). The idea of only being able to support specific applications really bothers me. In some cases (i.e. a firewall) this exactly what is required. But for general-purpose connectivity, I'm afraid that this will just result in people hanging more and more "warts" off the IP stack that will make it slower and harder to maintain (in addition to my other gripes earlier).
Bruce.