atom feed61 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-questionsRe: ip masquerading
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Clint MarekMay 16, 1996 8:02 pm 
Doug WhiteMay 17, 1996 11:33 am 
Tony KimballMay 17, 1996 2:11 pm 
Terry LambertMay 17, 1996 2:23 pm 
Tony KimballMay 17, 1996 6:04 pm 
Archie CobbsMay 17, 1996 6:05 pm 
Terry LambertMay 17, 1996 6:13 pm 
Tony KimballMay 17, 1996 7:46 pm 
Terry LambertMay 17, 1996 10:48 pm 
Archie CobbsMay 18, 1996 1:23 am 
francis yeungMay 18, 1996 5:26 am 
Bruce A. MahMay 18, 1996 8:43 am 
Eric J. SchwertfegerMay 18, 1996 11:06 am 
Stephen HoveyMay 18, 1996 11:59 am 
Archie CobbsMay 18, 1996 1:05 pm 
Terry LambertMay 18, 1996 3:15 pm 
Clint MarekMay 18, 1996 10:09 pm 
Michael SmithMay 18, 1996 10:36 pm 
Tony KimballMay 19, 1996 12:50 am 
Carl MakinMay 19, 1996 5:01 am 
Pedro A M VazquezMay 19, 1996 6:01 am 
Michael SmithMay 19, 1996 7:40 am 
Charlie ROOTMay 19, 1996 4:37 pm 
Michael SmithMay 19, 1996 7:07 pm 
Garrett WollmanMay 20, 1996 7:40 am 
Bruce A. MahMay 20, 1996 8:37 am 
Tony KimballMay 20, 1996 11:48 am 
Jim DennisMay 20, 1996 12:47 pm 
Garrett WollmanMay 20, 1996 1:29 pm 
Tony KimballMay 20, 1996 1:36 pm 
Terry LambertMay 20, 1996 3:22 pm 
Terry LambertMay 20, 1996 3:28 pm 
Terry LambertMay 20, 1996 3:32 pm 
Gary PalmerMay 20, 1996 3:34 pm 
Archie CobbsMay 20, 1996 3:42 pm 
Terry LambertMay 20, 1996 3:45 pm 
Terry LambertMay 20, 1996 3:56 pm 
Terry LambertMay 20, 1996 4:15 pm 
Tony KimballMay 20, 1996 4:54 pm 
Tony KimballMay 20, 1996 5:09 pm 
Bruce A. MahMay 20, 1996 5:10 pm 
Bruce A. MahMay 20, 1996 5:23 pm 
Tony KimballMay 20, 1996 5:25 pm 
Michael SmithMay 20, 1996 6:38 pm 
Terry LambertMay 20, 1996 6:47 pm 
Jim DennisMay 20, 1996 8:13 pm 
Tony KimballMay 20, 1996 8:24 pm 
Jim DennisMay 20, 1996 9:14 pm 
Terry LambertMay 20, 1996 9:30 pm 
Terry LambertMay 20, 1996 9:34 pm 
Tony KimballMay 20, 1996 10:02 pm 
Bruce A. MahMay 20, 1996 10:12 pm 
Bruce A. MahMay 20, 1996 10:44 pm 
Tony KimballMay 20, 1996 10:47 pm 
M.R.MurphyMay 21, 1996 5:59 am 
Carl MakinMay 21, 1996 6:46 am 
Terry LambertMay 21, 1996 10:40 am 
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Scott BlachowiczMay 22, 1996 9:28 am 
Pedro A M VazquezMay 22, 1996 11:13 am 
Bill FennerMay 22, 1996 11:45 am 
Subject:Re: ip masquerading
From:Bruce A. Mah (bm@cs.berkeley.edu)
Date:May 18, 1996 8:43:14 am
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-questions

Tony Kimball writes:

From: Terry Lambert <ter@lambert.org> Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:13:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: ip masquerading

> You give all of the outgoing > packets the same IP address but remap their source ports so when > traffic comes back you know who it is really destined for, do the > reverse mapping, etc..

Which is to say, you turn on IP forwarding by default (which is illegal) and rewrite the packet source headers on the way in and out (which is also illegal).

If anyone knows how these actions are in violation of a requirement, I'd surely appreciate a pointer to the pertinent rfc. They are part of the implementation of the IP stack on the host, which in this case is the *system* incorporating the masquerading server and client. Internet requirements documents do not specify implementation, merely interface.

You're not alone...I'm trying to figure this out too. I've been looking through RFC 1122 (Host Requirements - Communications Layers) and RFC 1812 (Requirements for IP Version 4 Routers). I think these are probably the right places to find info related to this topic, but so far I haven't found it.

All I've been able to confirm so far is that turning on IP forwarding by default *is* illegal, by section 3.1 of RFC 1122. It's not clear to me that IP masquerading violates this requirement.

> At least under the (not always valid) assumption that you don't run > out of ports in your remapping range. What standards in particular are > you referring to?

1) Gateway 2) Routing

Garrett explained this all before.

I haven't been able to find anything in the archives. If you have it cached anywhere or can suggest a more apposite keyword, I would appreciate it.

A search for "masquerading and garrett" across all the FreeBSD archives uncovered one previous discussion on this topic, but no reference to an RFC. Ditto for "masquerading and rfc".

I can understand people's opposition to IP masquerading. Indeed, I share a lot of these opinions...I suppose above everything else, this idea just plain feels wrong! I'd really like to have something concrete to go on though, but citing "All the routing RFCs" and "Garrett explained this all before" isn't necessarily helpful. Maybe I'm just plain stupid or something, but if Terry or Garrett could point to the right RFC, internet-draft, FYI, or whatever, I'd be real happy.

In peace,

Bruce.