|Mike Wexler||Nov 18, 1996 2:15 pm|
|Sarra Mossoff||Nov 18, 1996 2:45 pm|
|Kim McGalliard||Nov 18, 1996 3:03 pm|
|Chris Lilley||Nov 18, 1996 3:17 pm|
|Carl Morris||Nov 18, 1996 7:13 pm|
|Steve Knoblock||Nov 18, 1996 7:43 pm|
|Carl Morris||Nov 18, 1996 9:28 pm|
|andi hindle||Nov 19, 1996 2:52 am|
|Steve Knoblock||Nov 19, 1996 8:21 am|
|Carl Morris||Nov 19, 1996 4:24 pm|
|Steve Knoblock||Nov 19, 1996 4:55 pm|
|Carl Morris||Nov 19, 1996 6:44 pm|
|papr...@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca||Nov 20, 1996 4:09 am|
|Steve Knoblock||Nov 20, 1996 7:07 am|
|papr...@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca||Nov 20, 1996 8:44 am|
|Dan Delaney||Nov 20, 1996 9:13 am|
|Carl Morris||Nov 20, 1996 3:18 pm|
|Gordon Blackstock||Nov 22, 1996 12:54 pm|
|Subject:||Re: Re:When will CSS rule?|
|Date:||Nov 20, 1996 8:44:00 am|
At 10:07 AM 11/20/96 -0500, Steve Knoblock wrote:
I agree with all these points. We may not be able to get the browser developers to implement them. Maybe MS is listening. I know they have a SGML backend for Word.
Microsoft also uses SGML massively in-house.
Why? It is no harder to parse <POEM> than <DIV CLASS=POEM>. Neither requires a browser update. They just require a style sheet to describe how to display them.
I think Carl's concern is that SGML does not specify the way an element should be displayed. If there were no style sheet present, then browser developers would have to reinvent tags soup. But I think the very fact that you could create an infinite number of variations on elements with SGML makes a style sheet a necessary prerequisite for deploying SGML on the web.
That is true. SGML without a style sheet is basically unreadable. But I expect the text-mode browser vendors to be on the cutting edge of generic SGML deployment. So it will only be the WYSIWYG vendors (who have no excuse) who will hold us back.
HTML could never turn into SGML. It wouldn't make sense. But the "standard language" of the Web could turn into SGML. This process is under way.
That process scares me a bit. Will the DTD have to be downloaded with each document?
No. You no longer need the DTD to display the document. You just need the stylesheet. This is described at http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/TR/WD-xml-961114.html
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