Dear All

On 17 Aug 2008, at 18:41, Sylvain Wallez wrote:

Many thanks Sylvain for taking the time to voice your opinion.

I too missed the vote for the same reason. I too worry about the message being sent here, as a community there are many still smarting from the difficult transition from 2.1 to 2.2 and whether that perception is right or wrong, without community support, this project is dogmeat.

While I think a Pipeline etc. API is a brilliant idea, I have doubts that calling it Cocoon 3.0 is the right move, right now. I am too late obviously, the democratic process has taken place, but TBH, reading the C3 site and Reinhard's blog post (sorry Reinhard) left me feeling that we were throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

Leaving the difficult and controversial issue of Ant versus Maven aside (Sylvain had good reasons to publicly repudiate Maven, when he did) ....

IMHO all release versions of Cocoon still have relevance :

Cocoon 2.1 for Ant fanciers Cocoon 2.2 for Maven mavens Cocoon 3.0 for integrators

But I am wondering where 3.0 goes? How does it grow, what true innovations are being thrown away?

I do not mean to be sending a negative message, it is important that Cocoon continues to innovate and attract new talent. But we should be very careful in the message we give. 2.2 is only 'better' than 2.1 (etc.) if you prefer Maven over Ant, we should not be putting out the message that somehow 2.1 (and now 2.2) is somehow obsolete. It is just a matter of taste and circumstance, IMHO.

regards Jeremy