atom feed43 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-archRe: Extending sys/dev/mii
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Stefan BethkeJan 4, 2012 8:03 am 
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Aleksandr RybalkoJan 24, 2012 5:53 am 
Marius StroblJan 25, 2012 2:17 pm 
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Adrian ChaddFeb 10, 2012 9:22 pm 
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Aleksandr RybalkoFeb 11, 2012 4:45 am 
Adrian ChaddFeb 11, 2012 4:59 pm 
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Juli MallettFeb 11, 2012 9:05 pm 
Adrian ChaddFeb 11, 2012 9:19 pm 
Aleksandr RybalkoFeb 12, 2012 9:51 am 
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Juli MallettFeb 12, 2012 10:30 am 
Aleksandr RybalkoFeb 12, 2012 10:38 am 
Subject:Re: Extending sys/dev/mii
From:Marius Strobl (mar@alchemy.franken.de)
Date:Jan 25, 2012 3:21:32 pm
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-arch

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 03:28:38PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:

On Jan 25, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Marius Strobl wrote:

Yes, architecture of newbus is built around the assumption that there's a single device tree and all you ever need are child- parent-relationships. AFAICT this assumption dates back to at least the device configuration in 4.4BSD and apart from the embedded world it held true just fine so far ...

Even in the embedded world it is true. The problem is that in the embedded
world multiple devices use the service of another device which is why we're
seeing teething pain with the MDIO bus (which shares all the management lines
between the PHY rather than having each MAC have its own connection to the PHY).
So while the basic resources are still hierarchical, the interconnects have
become more complicated. The issue we're facing here is that we'd assumed that
the MAC PHY connection could provide management services since you knew you had
to have data services or else you'd have no packet flow...

We're seeing the same struggles with gpio and interrupt pins...

Hrm, is there a proper solution to this? Could resource-multiplexers ala puc(4) that are attached before all their consumers via multi- pass be one?

Marius