33 messages in com.mysql.lists.mysqlRe: Porting from MS SQL to MySQL
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Markus Lervik18 Jan 2002 05:15 
Jeremy Zawodny18 Jan 2002 05:58 
Jatin Nansi18 Jan 2002 05:59 
Markus Lervik18 Jan 2002 06:05 
j.urban18 Jan 2002 06:09 
adm...@not4u.net18 Jan 2002 06:13 
Achim, Caterina18 Jan 2002 06:16 
Tony Buckley18 Jan 2002 07:13 
Gordan Bobic18 Jan 2002 07:30 
adm...@not4u.net18 Jan 2002 07:34 
Tony Buckley18 Jan 2002 07:46 
j.urban18 Jan 2002 08:07 
j.urban18 Jan 2002 08:09 
Todd Williamsen18 Jan 2002 08:17 
Tony Buckley18 Jan 2002 08:38 
Tony Buckley18 Jan 2002 08:55 
Todd Williamsen18 Jan 2002 09:04 
j.urban18 Jan 2002 09:16 
j.urban18 Jan 2002 09:19 
B Richards18 Jan 2002 10:14 
Chris Lott18 Jan 2002 10:15 
j.urban18 Jan 2002 10:31 
David M. Peak18 Jan 2002 13:46 
Carsten H. Pedersen18 Jan 2002 14:23 
Richard Burgmann20 Jan 2002 03:07 
Joseph Roth20 Jan 2002 05:25 
Markus Lervik20 Jan 2002 23:08 
Markus Lervik20 Jan 2002 23:22 
Russell King21 Jan 2002 02:15 
adam nelson21 Jan 2002 07:12 
Bob Hall21 Jan 2002 13:17 
Shankar Unni21 Jan 2002 17:06 
Markus Lervik22 Jan 2002 00:33 
Subject:Re: Porting from MS SQL to MySQL
From:Tony Buckley (To@10uk.net)
Date:01/18/2002 07:46:54 AM
List:com.mysql.lists.mysql

----- Original Message ----- From: <adm@not4u.net> To: "Tony Buckley" <To@10uk.net> Cc: <mys@lists.mysql.com> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Porting from MS SQL to MySQL

SNIPSNIP:)

I agree. If they are a seriuos company they should build it after the customers wishes i.e if you want mysql the company should build it with mysql.

For 18,000 euro i could build the system myself:)

My two cents /PM\

What about the customer who asks a car company to make the vehicle's tryes out of velvet? Would you go off in a huff if they refused and demand they do it? There are obviously issues here that we are not privy to; there *must* be logic behind the choice of SQLServer. Are they saying that mySQL isn't upto it?

Ah but if i say i want a mysql server and costs for it they shouldnt say we can do it in mssql I think they should give me an estimate on the costs for what i want then i can discuss how to get the cost down

Unless they are saying they doubt that mySQL is upto, it so it's no good quoting. They may have a room full of SQLServer people twiddling their thumbs in which case I agree with you, they are not bucking for the customer here. On the other hand they have very real doubts that mySQL is upto the job; they may be wrong on this last point, but at least they are being honest in their beliefs. Who knows!

Porting a DB takes more 'than a couple of hours'. What about the written procedures, the security mappings, the back up and recovery procs, the fallback arrangements, the testing etc.

If you think E18k is a lot then ask for a detailed task plan with effort; find out what they are asking you to pay for.

The DB was described as 'fairly complicated' whatever that may mean. Perhaps - and we are all guesing - there are remote data issues, views, stored procs, java and god knows what else that all needs to be

integrated.

Mysql has always filled my need (wich is with perl,java,php) Granted it would be better to know exactly what fairly complicated is

Bottom line when you get a quote is find out what they want to do task by task and then cut it down from there.

I have to agree with this but i dont think you should pay for getting a workdescription from them (ofcourse i dont know much about administrating papperwork i am a technichian)

100% agree. Planning, including bidding for a job, is an overhead. There should be no charge for this. IBM would disagree with us however :-)

Tony