atom feed116 messages in org.kde.kde-core-develRe: Rekonq default
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Frank KarlitschekFeb 20, 2010 6:43 am 
Dan Leinir Turthra JensenFeb 20, 2010 6:46 am 
Thomas McGuireFeb 20, 2010 7:01 am 
Anders LundFeb 20, 2010 7:01 am 
Sascha PeilickeFeb 20, 2010 7:03 am 
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Kevin OttensFeb 20, 2010 7:22 am 
Anders LundFeb 20, 2010 7:26 am 
Arno RehnFeb 20, 2010 7:28 am 
Andreas HartmetzFeb 20, 2010 7:30 am 
Frank KarlitschekFeb 20, 2010 7:32 am 
Andreas HartmetzFeb 20, 2010 7:32 am 
Alexis MénardFeb 20, 2010 7:39 am 
Eike HeinFeb 20, 2010 7:46 am 
Aaron J. SeigoFeb 20, 2010 7:46 am 
Albert Astals CidFeb 20, 2010 7:47 am 
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Subject:Re: Rekonq default
From:Eike Hein (he@kde.org)
Date:Feb 20, 2010 7:46:36 am
List:org.kde.kde-core-devel

On 02/20/2010 03:43 PM, Frank Karlitschek wrote:

1. userinterface the GUI of rekonq is more optimized for webbrowsing. it is simpler and more to the point of using the web. But also has advanced features like the speed dial or previews for tabs. I think it has a better GUI for most users compared with konqueror

Its user interface also strays far from the path established by our other standard applications and the HIG. You're going to have to make a good case for why our interface standards are not supposed to apply to our default web browser.

2. rendering engine rekonq is using webkit which renders modern websites better than khtml. webkit is moving forward really fast at the moment. It is in fact the leading rendering engine if you look at HTML5 compliance or speed. We should benefit from that.

The rendering engine is irrelevant. WebKit can also be used in Konqueror. KHTML, on the other hand - an important compo- nent of the KDE Platform - presently cannot be used in Re- konq, as far as I know. For me that puts Konqueror ahead of Rekonq in the "rendering engine" department: It can use both engines.

What do you think?

I think that web browsers are hard. Web browsers have a very long tail of edge cases they need to handle well, and I'm not talking about the rendering engine. Accumu- lating solutions for these edge cases takes years. While other people may see a problem in the age of the Kon- queror codebase, in truth it represents tremendous value that we shouldn't throw away. Not to mention the many features Konqueror currently has that Rekonq doesn't have, many of which would likely have to be added back on user demand down the line - it's a duplication of effort.

If we're unhappy with Konqueror's state, then we should renew our investment of time and effort in Konqueror and shape it into what we need it to be.

Cheers Frank