77 messages in net.sourceforge.lists.courier-users[courier-users] RE: freemail list and...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 5, 2004 11:31 am | |
| Jeff Potter | Jan 5, 2004 12:58 pm | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 5, 2004 1:26 pm | |
| Gerardo Gregory | Jan 5, 2004 1:34 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 5, 2004 1:56 pm | |
| Andrew Newton | Jan 5, 2004 3:02 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 5, 2004 3:23 pm | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 5, 2004 3:38 pm | |
| Andrew Newton | Jan 5, 2004 5:49 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 5, 2004 5:57 pm | |
| Andrew Newton | Jan 5, 2004 7:06 pm | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 5, 2004 8:19 pm | |
| Gordon Messmer | Jan 5, 2004 11:58 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 4:10 am | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 4:11 am | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 4:12 am | |
| Gordon Messmer | Jan 6, 2004 10:20 am | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 6, 2004 10:50 am | |
| Malcolm Weir | Jan 6, 2004 2:10 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 6, 2004 3:07 pm | |
| Phillip Hutchings | Jan 6, 2004 3:28 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 3:44 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 3:46 pm | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 6, 2004 3:56 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 6, 2004 4:17 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 4:31 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 6, 2004 4:45 pm | |
| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 6, 2004 5:17 pm | |
| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 6, 2004 5:20 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 6, 2004 5:33 pm | |
| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 6, 2004 5:51 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 6, 2004 6:12 pm | |
| Malcolm Weir | Jan 6, 2004 6:17 pm | |
| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 6, 2004 6:22 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 6:34 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 6:47 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 6, 2004 7:10 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 6, 2004 7:42 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 6, 2004 7:53 pm | |
| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 6, 2004 7:54 pm | |
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| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 6, 2004 8:13 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 8:16 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 8:19 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 6, 2004 8:22 pm | |
| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 6, 2004 8:22 pm | |
| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 6, 2004 8:29 pm | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 6, 2004 11:19 pm | |
| Roland | Jan 7, 2004 3:56 am | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 7, 2004 4:14 am | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 10:47 am | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 10:59 am | |
| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 7, 2004 11:37 am | |
| Malcolm Weir | Jan 7, 2004 12:18 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 1:09 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 1:40 pm | |
| Gordon Messmer | Jan 7, 2004 3:08 pm | |
| Malcolm Weir | Jan 7, 2004 3:14 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 7, 2004 3:32 pm | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 7, 2004 3:46 pm | |
| Sam Varshavchik | Jan 7, 2004 3:50 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 3:52 pm | |
| Bill Michell | Jan 7, 2004 3:54 pm | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 7, 2004 3:56 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 4:03 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 4:06 pm | |
| Roger B.A. Klorese | Jan 7, 2004 4:12 pm | |
| Phillip Hutchings | Jan 7, 2004 4:16 pm | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 7, 2004 4:27 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 4:29 pm | |
| Mitch (WebCob) | Jan 7, 2004 4:32 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 4:33 pm | |
| Gordon Messmer | Jan 7, 2004 4:58 pm | |
| Malcolm Weir | Jan 7, 2004 5:07 pm | |
| Julian Mehnle | Jan 7, 2004 5:27 pm | |
| Phillip Hutchings | Jan 7, 2004 6:33 pm | |
| Gordon Messmer | Jan 7, 2004 7:00 pm |
| Subject: | [courier-users] RE: freemail list and questions about yahoo... | |
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| From: | Julian Mehnle (lis...@mehnle.net) | |
| Date: | Jan 7, 2004 1:40:39 pm | |
| List: | net.sourceforge.lists.courier-users | |
Malcolm Weir <ma...@gelt.org> wrote:
So why do you, and others, seem so upset with a proposal that *is*, in at least some regards, more secure and more useful (to large ISPs)?
I'm getting upset because I think that YASAF is vast overkill for the sender
address forgery, while some people think it should be generally adopted
*instead* of rivaling schemes like SPF due to Yahoo's 800lb Gorilla factor.
SPF doesn't meet their (Yahoo's) needs, for several reasons. It *isn't* useless, but it's nowhere near as useful (to Yahoo and other large ISPs) as the crypto solution. And it does diddly for the legal side of the matter.
I never demanded that Yahoo should adopt SPF instead of YASAF. It sure is
Yahoo's right to deploy for themselves whatever fits *them* best. What I don't
like is the outlook of 800lb Yahoo trying to impose whatever fits *them* best
onto the world. Besides, from what I read on the news about YASAF, Yahoo seems
to be trying to commercialize it[1]:
| [...] Garlinghouse said Yahoo is seeking a patent on the DomainKeys | technology, but will license it at no charge to anyone who wants it. | Yahoo is also creating software that will add the capability to Qmail | and Sendmail, two of the most common e-mail server programs. This | software will be distributed free. [...]
"free"? That sure *sounds* like "free bear", not "free speech". But we won't
know for sure until we hear more from Yahoo. Let's wait and see...
[1]
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2003/12/10/yahoo_pitches_antispam_system/