76 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-archRe: Threads| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 20, 1999 8:12 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 20, 1999 8:30 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 20, 1999 8:37 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 20, 1999 9:02 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 20, 1999 9:14 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 20, 1999 9:21 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 20, 1999 9:25 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 20, 1999 9:27 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 20, 1999 9:40 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 20, 1999 10:58 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 21, 1999 5:40 am | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 22, 1999 4:30 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 22, 1999 7:57 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 22, 1999 8:11 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 22, 1999 8:38 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 22, 1999 9:40 pm | |
| Daniel Eischen | Nov 23, 1999 4:19 am | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 23, 1999 11:30 am | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 23, 1999 1:22 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 23, 1999 9:06 pm | |
| Daniel Eischen | Nov 23, 1999 9:49 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 23, 1999 10:47 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 23, 1999 11:33 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 23, 1999 11:46 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 2:03 am | |
| Daniel C. Sobral | Nov 24, 1999 3:19 am | |
| Daniel C. Sobral | Nov 24, 1999 3:51 am | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 24, 1999 6:03 am | |
| Richard Seaman, Jr. | Nov 24, 1999 6:33 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 10:35 am | |
| Daniel Eischen | Nov 24, 1999 11:02 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 11:05 am | |
| Anthony Kimball | Nov 24, 1999 11:25 am | |
| Daniel Eischen | Nov 24, 1999 11:28 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 11:41 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 11:47 am | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 11:54 am | |
| Louis A. Mamakos | Nov 24, 1999 11:57 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 12:00 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 12:20 pm | |
| Anthony Kimball | Nov 24, 1999 12:47 pm | |
| Doug Rabson | Nov 24, 1999 2:05 pm | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 24, 1999 2:16 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 2:28 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 2:40 pm | |
| Richard Seaman, Jr. | Nov 24, 1999 3:39 pm | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 24, 1999 9:24 pm | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 24, 1999 10:03 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 25, 1999 1:08 am | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 25, 1999 1:33 am | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 25, 1999 3:08 am | |
| Doug Rabson | Nov 26, 1999 3:01 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Nov 26, 1999 10:33 am | |
| Doug Rabson | Nov 26, 1999 12:15 pm | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 27, 1999 7:38 pm | |
| Arun Sharma | Nov 27, 1999 8:57 pm | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 28, 1999 8:41 am | |
| Arun Sharma | Nov 28, 1999 10:25 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 28, 1999 5:06 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 29, 1999 8:10 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 29, 1999 8:21 am | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 29, 1999 8:29 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 29, 1999 9:05 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 29, 1999 9:19 am | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 29, 1999 9:28 am | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 29, 1999 10:29 am | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 29, 1999 11:23 am | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 29, 1999 1:39 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 29, 1999 6:06 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 29, 1999 7:46 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 29, 1999 9:01 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 29, 1999 9:34 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 29, 1999 10:09 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 30, 1999 4:02 am | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 30, 1999 2:25 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 30, 1999 2:42 pm |
| Subject: | Re: Threads | |
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| From: | Chuck Robey (chu...@picnic.mat.net) | |
| Date: | Nov 23, 1999 9:06:32 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-arch | |
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Daniel Eischen wrote:
I'm wondering if there might possibly be some way to preserve some level of simplicity by keeping ksid'd like we keep pid's now, so that things that juggle a 32 bit entity keep on doing that, although perhaps under another name.
I think you're basically right in keeping things simple. I think that a non-MT process should be equivalent to a MT process. The non-MT process has only one co-operating process (itself) and one KSE. Whenever the non-MT process blocks in the kernel, there are no more available KSEs, so another process is scheduled.
OK, then let me ask another question: are we at all concerned about maybe following an already established thread API, or are we going to create our own? Things like user threads probably could work as then are now (albeit perhaps with only minor changes in performance) and stuff with runtimes like Java wouldn't care, but big programs like XFree86 and Netscape, and specially made daemons trying to do things like mass factoring, that are going to really want to manipulate real concurrency levels, they're going to have to be aware of our real underlying API, so making a unique one will complicate a lot of lives.
Dan Eischen eisc...@vigrid.com
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