11 messages in org.oasis-open.lists.xri-editorsRE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as loc...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Wachob, Gabe | Nov 2, 2003 8:27 pm | |
| Drummond Reed | Nov 3, 2003 12:32 am | |
| Wachob, Gabe | Nov 3, 2003 9:01 am | |
| Drummond Reed | Nov 3, 2003 9:57 am | |
| Wachob, Gabe | Nov 3, 2003 10:04 am | |
| Veizades, John | Nov 3, 2003 10:04 am | |
| Wachob, Gabe | Nov 3, 2003 10:16 am | |
| Drummond Reed | Nov 3, 2003 2:58 pm | |
| Wachob, Gabe | Nov 3, 2003 3:02 pm | |
| Drummond Reed | Nov 3, 2003 3:15 pm | |
| Dave McAlpin | Nov 3, 2003 4:08 pm |
| Subject: | RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol | |
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| From: | Wachob, Gabe (gwac...@visa.com) | |
| Date: | Nov 3, 2003 3:02:26 pm | |
| List: | org.oasis-open.lists.xri-editors | |
John Veizades will draft two paragraphs by COB Tuesday.
-Gabe
-----Original Message----- From: Drummond Reed [mailto:drum...@onename.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:03 PM To: Wachob, Gabe; XRI Editors (E-mail) Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
Gabe, you're right, mentioning this as an example of a future binding definition (esp. right in 3.2.2 when describing /IdentifierAuthority/LocalAccess/Service, and again in 3.4 when talking about how local access works, would be ideal.
2 paras will do this. Will you take this action item (if I take the one about the next draft of the XRI charter?)
=Drummond
-----Original Message----- From: Wachob, Gabe [mailto:gwac...@visa.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:08 AM To: Drummond Reed; XRI Editors (E-mail) Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
Drummond-
Yes, I understand what you want to do. I don't think its a good idea, though, because its essentially "half-specifying" an ldap binding. Its entirely possible to have two different local access protocol bindings which use ldap that are identified differently.
I suppose it would be OK to mention this as an example of a future binding definition, if that would satisfy your desires...
-Gabe
-----Original Message----- From: Drummond Reed [mailto:drum...@onename.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:02 AM To: Wachob, Gabe; XRI Editors (E-mail) Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
I think we're talking about different things. I was simply asking how an XRI-identified endpoint might advertise that other local access services like LDAP or DSML were available at that endpoint, given that we have an element of the Identifier Authority Descriptor for doing this. I know that doesn't answer the question of how you would query for an XRI-identified resource USING such local access service. But since the endpoint at which the service is available MUST have an XRI, and it already has an Identifier Authority Descriptor for describing it, I guess I'm just asking why we are not providing the names of other common local access protocols as options, even if we say that the current spec does not define how to translate XRIs into queries in those protocols.
=Drummond
-----Original Message----- From: Wachob, Gabe [mailto:gwac...@visa.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:05 AM To: Drummond Reed; XRI Editors (E-mail) Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
Well, if you don't define the LDAP query, then you can't have any interoperability and therefore whats the purpose of "defining" an LDAP local access protocol?
To put it concretely, if I have an XRI of "@example/foo.bar", and @example identifies a particular LDAP server, then what LDAP query do I perform? If thats not specified, then a local access protocol binding really hasn't been defined..
-Gabe
-----Original Message----- From: Drummond Reed [mailto:drum...@onename.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 12:37 AM To: Wachob, Gabe; XRI Editors (E-mail) Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
I agree that defining a translation would be useful, but it's not actaully required, is it? Say I have an XRI for "@foo.bar" and then I want to make an LDAP query about a distinguished name at the endpoint identified by "@foo.bar". In that case I don't have to express that distinguished name as an XRI, I just need to know is that LDAP is a supported local access protocol at that endpoint, yes?
=Drummond
-----Original Message----- From: Wachob, Gabe [mailto:gwac...@visa.com] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 8:32 PM To: Drummond Reed; XRI Editors (E-mail) Subject: RE: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
Well, thats OK, but there a bit of work to do. We have to define how a XRI gets translated into a LDAP or DSML query. This is not a straightforward process, and there are probably a multitude of ways to do it (an LDAP query is *structured* and I'm not sure how that structure is created).
Does someone have a proposal for how to do this in a flexible way?
-Gabe
-----Original Message----- From: Drummond Reed [mailto:drum...@onename.com] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:12 PM To: XRI Editors (E-mail) Subject: [xri-editors] LDAP or DSML as local access protocol
Gabe, I forgot that one of my notes in first reading the resolution section was why LDAP or DSML wasn't included as an option alongside X2R as a local access protocol? This is in relation to 3.2.2 an 3.4.
=Drummond
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