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Jean T. AndersonDec 16, 2005 5:17 pm 
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robert burrell donkinDec 17, 2005 7:01 am 
Stefano MazzocchiDec 17, 2005 7:10 am 
Noel J. BergmanDec 17, 2005 8:26 am 
Jean T. AndersonDec 17, 2005 9:07 am 
Mark ThomasDec 17, 2005 9:08 am 
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Thorsten ScherlerDec 17, 2005 9:49 am 
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robert burrell donkinDec 18, 2005 12:25 pm 
Sylvain WallezDec 20, 2005 3:50 am 
Jean T. AndersonDec 20, 2005 8:34 am 
Ted HustedJan 1, 2006 4:55 am 
Davanum SrinivasJan 3, 2006 6:17 am 
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robert burrell donkinJan 5, 2006 1:10 pm 
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robert burrell donkinJan 9, 2006 2:12 pm 
Subject:Re: At what point do you unsubscribe/deny a misbehaving user?
From:robert burrell donkin (rdon@apache.org)
Date:Dec 18, 2005 12:25:59 pm
List:org.apache.community

On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 09:07 -0800, Jean T. Anderson wrote:

robert burrell donkin wrote:

I'll look at the jakarta lists for how the OT FUD was handled.

LOL!

i hope you're going to be looking for anti-patterns :)

IIRC jakarta didn't exactly have a good record for avoiding flamewars. back in the good old bad old days, general@jakarta used to be a high octane list with an audience of thousands, scores of trolls and dozens of committers with huge egos where anything which didn't seem likely to start a flamewar was seemed to be considered off topic ;)

so, i wasn't really trying to advocate adopting the same approaches, just proposing that it's possible to learn from our mistakes...

i'll try to explain the substance (of my last point) a little better this time: if a flamewar is really necessary (which can sometimes be the case if someone aggressively starts posting FUD which the ASF needs to address) then it usually ends better if it's done by an outsider rather than a developer who's regularly on list. now that the ASF has moved to a flatter structure, it might be better for top level projects to raise matters like that on here community rather than tackling it themselves.

- robert