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Subject:Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions
From:Georg Werner (geo@fricklr.de)
Date:Feb 9, 2009 4:33:13 am
List:at.iem.pd-list

hi,

Frank Barknecht:

How about making $0 in messages be a message counter?

if somebody really needs that - i dont ;)

ok, i give up. i think we are on a rather philosophical point now. but i had a lot of times when students where asking why they have to write [f $0]-[foobar $1( instead of [foobar $0(. so this came up from a users point of view. after getting all your input (thanks). i think Claude brought up the most logical solution, because this makes the different functions of $ obvious and obsolete. And it would help users and devs. (i know it will be a long way - cause it will break some patches ... :( )

$ in message boxes is unfortunate. If there was a different symbol, perhaps #, you could combine both phases in one object box to avoid jumping through pointless hoops. [$0-#1-$2-#3( would be nice, but as Pd is now, it's a nightmare.

not a nightmare, but this is one point why Pd is harder to learn for beginners than it has to. georg

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