atom feed45 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-fsRe: Areca vs. ZFS performance testing.
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Danny CarrollJan 21, 2009 5:14 am 
Subject:Re: Areca vs. ZFS performance testing.
From:Danny Carroll (fb@dannysplace.net)
Date:Jan 21, 2009 5:14:47 am
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-fs

Koen Smits wrote:

Areca Support: Dear Sir, the only difference is in JBOD mode, controller configure all drives as passthrough disk. in RAID mode, you have to configure passthrough disk by yourself in RAID mode

in other words, you can use raid with passthrough disks at saem time in RAID mode but JBOD mode not.

Me: So does that mean if I use passthrough, I am not protected by the cache/battery backup? I ask because there is an option for cache mode when creating a passthrough disk. i.e. Write-Back or Write-Through

So 'passthrough' means that the controller lets the OS see the physical disks just as they are, but with an invisible cache in between that buffers operations. This way there is no advantage of the onboard XOR engine, but you do profit from the intelligent cache, which is the most important anyway imho.

Not exactly. In JBOD mode ALL disks are passed through to the OS. You cannot have RAID. The cache is set to Write-Back.

In RAID mode, you can mix raid5, raid6 and Passthrough (which are like JBOD but allow writethrough or writeback cache at your discretion).

JBOD mode is at a disadvantage because in this mode the OS sees one large drive, and is not able to stripe the data to multiple disks, not taking advantage of the fact that you have multple spindles available. Makes sense to me :).

No, in JBOD, the OS sees all disks individually. What you are talking about is a concatenated disk set which I don't think has a raid level.

I must admit, I do like these results. Very promising.

Me too, although I am not sure if I like the idea of turning off the cache flushes in ZFS. I'd be a lot happier if the Areca card would tell me how 'full' the cache was. I'd also love to know if there was a way for the disk to tell me what the status if it's own cache is.

Further tests would be using an SSD for the ZIL, testing linux and NT, etc. But let's not go there ;).

Nope :-)

-D