63 messages in com.perforce.perforce-user[p4] Triggers
FromSent OnAttachments
Todd Blanchard23 Apr 2002 02:02 
Paul Goffin23 Apr 2002 02:30 
Arnt Gulbrandsen23 Apr 2002 02:35 
Todd Blanchard23 Apr 2002 09:52 
Arnt Gulbrandsen23 Apr 2002 10:59 
Jeff A. Bowles23 Apr 2002 11:24 
Todd Blanchard23 Apr 2002 11:38 
Oren Shemesh23 Apr 2002 11:43 
Jay Han23 Apr 2002 12:04 
Arnt Gulbrandsen23 Apr 2002 12:04 
Dave Lewis23 Apr 2002 12:21 
Oren Shemesh23 Apr 2002 12:31 
Justus Pendleton23 Apr 2002 12:42 
Jay Han23 Apr 2002 13:02 
Todd Blanchard23 Apr 2002 13:13 
Todd Blanchard23 Apr 2002 13:15 
Jay Han23 Apr 2002 13:20 
Bala Subramanian23 Apr 2002 13:37 
Jeremy Russell23 Apr 2002 14:57 
Jeremy Russell23 Apr 2002 15:14 
Steve Cogorno23 Apr 2002 15:35 
Todd Blanchard23 Apr 2002 15:36 
Jay Han23 Apr 2002 15:37 
Bala Subramanian23 Apr 2002 15:53 
Jay Han23 Apr 2002 16:04 
Jeremy Russell23 Apr 2002 16:47 
Steve Cogorno23 Apr 2002 17:30 
Stephen Vance23 Apr 2002 20:23 
Arnt Gulbrandsen24 Apr 2002 01:52 
Arnt Gulbrandsen24 Apr 2002 02:18 
Chuck Karish24 Apr 2002 06:26 
Todd Short24 Apr 2002 07:28 
wiv...@us.itmasters.com24 Apr 2002 08:39 
Todd Blanchard24 Apr 2002 09:03 
Hoff, Todd24 Apr 2002 09:13 
Arnt Gulbrandsen24 Apr 2002 09:26 
Todd Blanchard24 Apr 2002 09:30 
wiv...@us.itmasters.com24 Apr 2002 09:39 
Steve Cogorno24 Apr 2002 09:40 
Steve Cogorno24 Apr 2002 09:44 
Hoff, Todd24 Apr 2002 09:49 
Steve Cogorno24 Apr 2002 10:01 
Arnt Gulbrandsen24 Apr 2002 10:02 
Hoff, Todd24 Apr 2002 10:11 
Todd Short24 Apr 2002 10:23 
Todd Short24 Apr 2002 10:29 
Justus Pendleton24 Apr 2002 12:32 
ste...@vance.com24 Apr 2002 14:04 
Chuck Karish25 Apr 2002 06:30 
Chuck Karish25 Apr 2002 06:41 
Hoff, Todd25 Apr 2002 10:41 
ste...@vance.com25 Apr 2002 11:45 
Chuck Karish26 Apr 2002 08:52 
Stephen Vance26 Apr 2002 09:36 
Todd Blanchard26 Apr 2002 09:49 
Robert Prentice26 Apr 2002 14:23 
Stephen Vance26 Apr 2002 20:37 
Chuck Karish27 Apr 2002 08:43 
Chuck Karish27 Apr 2002 09:45 
Raju Subbanna X483208 May 2002 12:10 
Stephen Vance08 May 2002 14:56 
Raju Subbanna X483208 May 2002 15:30 
wiv...@us.itmasters.com09 May 2002 07:39 
Subject:[p4] Triggers
From:Justus Pendleton (perf@ryoohki.net)
Date:04/23/2002 12:42:29 PM
List:com.perforce.perforce-user

On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:04:53PM +0200, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:

There are many things you can look for with code. I fail to see any that are best done in the version control server.

This is really about whether the SCM solution should enforce any kind of policy. Obviously perforce already does this with its permission mechanism. You say that perforce shouldn't be checking the contents of the file, I could say that perforce shouldn't be bothering to control who can read and write the data: that is better handled at other levels by network and sys admins. Obviously, however, we find it *convenient* for perforce to enforce policy like "Joe can 'review' but not 'delete'."

Once you have opened the door to having the SCM solution enforce policy then you don't have any bright line saying what policies it can and can't enforce...it is up to the individual user to determine what is useful and convenient for them. Some users might prefer a solution like Aegis where it has fairly strong policy enforcement. Other people might prefer RCS which has very little.

One of the nice things about server side hooks is that you can do whatever policy you want. Or don't want. If you want speed then don't do any server side hooks and perforce will run just as fast as it does today.

Just because the complexity of enforcing policy isn't in the SCM solution doesn't mean there isn't complexity. It just means it is in the build solution (and probably more easily subverted in that case) or somewhere else. Some people prefer (or are required by contract to have) stronger guarantees about what goes into their source trees.

Justus