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37 messages in org.kde.kde-core-develRe: Global Shortcuts| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Michael Jansen | Mar 16, 2008 7:49 pm | |
| Aaron J. Seigo | Mar 16, 2008 9:26 pm | |
| Andreas Pakulat | Mar 17, 2008 2:09 am | |
| David Faure | Mar 17, 2008 2:31 am | |
| Andreas Hartmetz | Mar 17, 2008 5:21 am | |
| Andreas Hartmetz | Mar 17, 2008 5:29 am | |
| Anders Lund | Mar 17, 2008 6:37 am | |
| Michael Jansen | Mar 17, 2008 10:44 am | |
| Michael Jansen | Mar 17, 2008 10:46 am | |
| Thiago Macieira | Mar 17, 2008 11:03 am | |
| Andreas Pakulat | Mar 17, 2008 11:04 am | |
| Eike Hein | Mar 17, 2008 11:19 am | |
| Anders Lund | Mar 17, 2008 11:30 am | |
| Anders Lund | Mar 17, 2008 11:33 am | |
| Andras Mantia | Mar 17, 2008 11:45 am | |
| Michael Jansen | Mar 17, 2008 11:54 am | |
| Andreas Pakulat | Mar 17, 2008 11:59 am | |
| Michael Jansen | Mar 17, 2008 12:15 pm | |
| Michael Jansen | Mar 17, 2008 12:16 pm | |
| Anders Lund | Mar 17, 2008 12:18 pm | |
| Andreas Pakulat | Mar 17, 2008 12:33 pm | |
| Michael Jansen | Mar 17, 2008 12:44 pm | |
| Anders Lund | Mar 17, 2008 12:58 pm | |
| Andreas Pakulat | Mar 17, 2008 2:01 pm | |
| Thiago Macieira | Mar 17, 2008 2:02 pm | |
| Andreas Pakulat | Mar 17, 2008 2:02 pm | |
| Thiago Macieira | Mar 17, 2008 2:04 pm | |
| Anders Lund | Mar 17, 2008 2:39 pm | |
| Olivier Goffart | Mar 17, 2008 3:28 pm | |
| Andreas Hartmetz | Mar 18, 2008 1:50 am | |
| Andreas Hartmetz | Mar 18, 2008 1:54 am | |
| Andreas Hartmetz | Mar 18, 2008 1:59 am | |
| Michael Jansen | Mar 18, 2008 2:49 am | |
| Sven Burmeister | Mar 18, 2008 7:48 am | |
| Alex Merry | Mar 18, 2008 9:15 am | |
| Christoph Cullmann | Mar 18, 2008 12:44 pm | |
| Andreas Pakulat | Mar 18, 2008 2:37 pm |
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| Subject: | Re: Global Shortcuts | Actions... |
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| From: | Andreas Hartmetz (ahar...@gmail.com) | |
| Date: | Mar 18, 2008 1:59:14 am | |
| List: | org.kde.kde-core-devel | |
Am Montag, 17. März 2008 14:37:55 schrieb Anders Lund:
On Monday 17 March 2008, Andreas Hartmetz wrote:
1. I don't care for applications registering global shortcuts without telling me and without giving me the oppurtunity to disable them. I start a application i don't know, accidently press some button combination and something happens. Don't like it. No global shortcuts without my consent. Basta. A application is allowed to advertise actions it thinks are appropriate for global shortcuts, and give default values, but after starting the application the first time they arent active. It's opt-in.
I am somewhat split on this. I can see the reasons for that but I think the reason against it is stronger: You want users to start using an app right away and if a user walks from one machine to the next it would be nice to have mostly (barring clashes which should be rare) the same shortcuts on both.
I'm with Michael here, I find the sudden missing functinoality in one application due to stolen shortcuts *very* disturbing, and an automated way to turn them off would be nice indeed.
It's expected that application programmers do a little bit of searching for a good shortcut on their own. Stealing a *global* shortcut that is already assigned *never* happens automatically. The API is there but it's documented that you shouldn't use it willy-nilly and so far nobody does. Also, global shortcuts usually have two modifiers and should be exotic enough not to override local shortcuts.