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Subject:Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir
From:David O'Brien (obr@freebsd.org)
Date:Mar 6, 2010 9:26:55 pm
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-current

On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 11:16:41AM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:

I think you misunderstand. Some of us old-timers have been having this discussion repeatedly for well over ten years. It always ends up the same way - a re-org might make the source tree marginally prettier but the consequences for long-term maintenance and supporting downstream contributors outweigh any possible benefit. Having the same conversation every two years with the same outcome gets annoying.

To be fair - two years ago we were not using a source control system that understood moves within the repository.

To do this two years ago, we had to make a choice between three poor paths of how to do CVS moves - repo copy (breaks date-based checkout), delete-add pairs (looses history), or copy the entire repository move files and use new repo for new releases and existing repo for old releases.

Juniper now also uses Subversion - so with sufficient warning and planning, Juniper could consume a move of the CPU directories moving under arch/.

Juniper also had a CVS based tree reorg 1.5 years go - taking the third path above.

Please don't use Juniper as an reason to not move forward with this change.