107 messages in org.apache.communityRe: Rules for Revolutionaries| From | Sent On | Attachments |
|---|---|---|
| 9 earlier messages | ||
| Aaron Bannert | 05 Nov 2002 21:29 | |
| Ted Husted | 06 Nov 2002 05:14 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 06 Nov 2002 18:54 | |
| Daniel Rall | 06 Nov 2002 22:11 | |
| Sam Ruby | 07 Nov 2002 03:43 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 07 Nov 2002 04:11 | |
| Ted Husted | 07 Nov 2002 04:31 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 07 Nov 2002 05:33 | |
| Sam Ruby | 07 Nov 2002 08:01 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 07 Nov 2002 09:27 | |
| Costin Manolache | 07 Nov 2002 12:39 | |
| Rich Bowen | 08 Nov 2002 04:35 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 08 Nov 2002 09:06 | |
| Sam Ruby | 08 Nov 2002 13:49 | |
| Costin Manolache | 08 Nov 2002 14:04 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 08 Nov 2002 14:46 | |
| Costin Manolache | 08 Nov 2002 15:11 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 08 Nov 2002 15:48 | |
| Craig R. McClanahan | 08 Nov 2002 16:02 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 08 Nov 2002 16:56 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 08 Nov 2002 17:02 | |
| Martin van den Bemt | 08 Nov 2002 17:13 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 08 Nov 2002 17:48 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 08 Nov 2002 17:50 | |
| James Taylor | 08 Nov 2002 17:56 | |
| Craig R. McClanahan | 08 Nov 2002 17:57 | |
| Craig R. McClanahan | 08 Nov 2002 18:04 | |
| Sam Ruby | 08 Nov 2002 18:16 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 08 Nov 2002 18:37 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 08 Nov 2002 18:40 | |
| Ceki Gülcü | 09 Nov 2002 00:29 | |
| Jeff Turner | 09 Nov 2002 02:44 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 09 Nov 2002 03:26 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 09 Nov 2002 04:13 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 09 Nov 2002 04:25 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 09 Nov 2002 04:27 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 09 Nov 2002 04:31 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 09 Nov 2002 04:35 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 09 Nov 2002 04:36 | |
| Danny Angus | 09 Nov 2002 04:39 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 09 Nov 2002 04:50 | |
| Martin van den Bemt | 09 Nov 2002 05:21 | |
| Ceki Gülcü | 09 Nov 2002 06:28 | |
| Costin Manolache | 09 Nov 2002 08:49 | |
| Sam Ruby | 09 Nov 2002 09:29 | |
| Costin Manolache | 09 Nov 2002 10:23 | |
| Ceki Gülcü | 09 Nov 2002 10:49 | |
| Ceki Gülcü | 09 Nov 2002 10:58 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 09 Nov 2002 12:32 | |
| James Duncan Davidson | 09 Nov 2002 15:29 | |
| James Duncan Davidson | 09 Nov 2002 15:37 | |
| Chuck Murcko | 09 Nov 2002 18:07 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 10 Nov 2002 05:29 | |
| Ceki Gülcü | 10 Nov 2002 06:21 | |
| James Duncan Davidson | 10 Nov 2002 09:14 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 11 Nov 2002 19:05 | |
| Stephen McConnell | 11 Nov 2002 19:26 | |
| Sam Ruby | 11 Nov 2002 19:41 | |
| Jeff Turner | 11 Nov 2002 19:42 | |
| Stephen McConnell | 11 Nov 2002 19:43 | |
| Ovidiu Predescu | 11 Nov 2002 21:34 | |
| Ovidiu Predescu | 11 Nov 2002 21:35 | |
| Sam Ruby | 11 Nov 2002 21:50 | |
| Jeff Turner | 11 Nov 2002 23:17 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 12 Nov 2002 07:18 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 12 Nov 2002 07:24 | |
| Martin van den Bemt | 12 Nov 2002 08:18 | |
| Joe Schaefer | 12 Nov 2002 08:19 | |
| Jeff Turner | 12 Nov 2002 08:20 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 12 Nov 2002 08:28 | |
| Henri Yandell | 12 Nov 2002 08:41 | |
| Costin Manolache | 12 Nov 2002 09:57 | |
| Costin Manolache | 12 Nov 2002 10:14 | |
| Craig R. McClanahan | 12 Nov 2002 11:38 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 12 Nov 2002 12:18 | |
| Glenn Nielsen | 12 Nov 2002 19:04 | |
| Stephen McConnell | 13 Nov 2002 02:23 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 13 Nov 2002 03:49 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 13 Nov 2002 03:55 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 13 Nov 2002 04:02 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 13 Nov 2002 04:20 | |
| Stephen McConnell | 13 Nov 2002 04:20 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 13 Nov 2002 06:44 | |
| Joe Schaefer | 13 Nov 2002 07:37 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 13 Nov 2002 08:49 | |
| Costin Manolache | 13 Nov 2002 10:01 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 13 Nov 2002 10:15 | |
| Sam Ruby | 13 Nov 2002 11:16 | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | 13 Nov 2002 11:44 | |
| Costin Manolache | 13 Nov 2002 12:10 | |
| Rodent of Unusual Size | 13 Nov 2002 17:37 | |
| Roy T. Fielding | 14 Nov 2002 09:54 | |
| Daniel Rall | 15 Nov 2002 14:44 | |
| Sam Ruby | 15 Nov 2002 19:28 | |
| Andrew C. Oliver | 15 Nov 2002 20:09 | |
| Henri Gomez | 18 Nov 2002 09:56 | |
| Henri Gomez | 18 Nov 2002 10:00 | |
| Henri Gomez | 18 Nov 2002 23:26 | |
| Subject: | Re: Rules for Revolutionaries |
|---|---|
| From: | James Duncan Davidson (dun...@x180.net) |
| Date: | 11/09/2002 03:29:20 PM |
| List: | org.apache.community |
On Saturday, Nov 9, 2002, at 02:29 US/Central, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
The liberal ideas expressed by Stefano, Sam and to some extent Costin are very inspiring and definitely please a wider audience than Duncan's ideas defending the actions of a selfish pig as he puts hit. (No, I don't think that Duncan is a selfish pig and you shouldn't either.)
Actually, "arrogant pig". :)
-snip from the email- "So, what do you think? Am I being an arrogant pig? Or do these rights matter to Apache developers? If these rights don't matter, should I just ask for the copyright to AntEater back so that I can go fork the code and do it elsewhere as a castway from the ASF?" -snip-
I've seen clear answers to these questions come from some quarters, but not necessarily from the board/pmc/existing power structure. Any discussion of the "Apache Way" should make it clear how this works.
BTW, I didn't see a link for the RfR document anywhere, so here's my real contribution to the discussion:
http://www.x180.net/rules.html
Do with it what you will. I'll be happy if it ended up posted up on apache.org or otherwise included or disowned at some point so that I don't have to worry about keeping it around in an accessible location. Enjoy.
-- James Duncan Davidson dun...@x180.net [life live];