89 messages in org.kernel.vger.linux-kernelRFC: add an ADVANCED_USER option
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Subject:RFC: add an ADVANCED_USER optionActions...
From:Adrian Bunk (bu@stusta.de)
Date:Feb 7, 2006 4:19:32 am
List:org.kernel.vger.linux-kernel

On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 10:38:05AM +0100, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:

On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 01:41 +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote:

On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 03:56:34PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

[...]

So, just as I did in the sample patch, the manual split shall depend on EMBEDDED. Those who run fat databases with big malloc/mmap assumptions don't probably belong to the group using CONFIG_EMBEDDED.

*sigh* well, the embeded folks are unlikely to have 1-3GB

ACK. But don't be confused by the naming: CONFIG_EMBEDDED nowadays means "options for people who know really what they do". It came originally from the embedded world but applies now also to others. No one has come up with a better option name up to now ... ...

It's slightly different:

EMBEDDED is limited to options allowing additional space savings for machines with strong space limits.

If you have enough RAM that VMSPLIT matters, you shouldn't enable EMBEDDED.

What we could do is to add an additional ADVANCED_USER option that hides options like VMSPLIT or the NAPI options for net drivers.

This would result in the following (the text for ADVANCED_USER isn't good, but you get the idea):

config ADVANCED_USER bool "ask questions that require a deeper knowledge of the kernel"

config EXPERIMENTAL bool "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers" depends on ADVANCED_USER

menuconfig EMBEDDED bool "Configure standard kernel features (for small systems)" depends on ADVANCED_USER

Bernd

cu Adrian

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